Ordered my Magic pie KIT 17-11-2009 Netherlands

[Jazzjerry]

So here whe go again Bikemad,

LOL

So I first or maybe midway the proces, want you to know that I studied forrestry and nature management. I now work as an Artist making wood sculptures....... Check out www.beeldhout.nl (in dutch) So my electronics knowledge is basic primary school info. I am not saying I am dumb, but a lot of things here are new for me and take a lot of reading and learning while going foreward.

I like doing it though..... A lot of other tihing I always questioned myself about in the sence of electronics are now getting visualised and clearer.

I am an Artist so visualising is the most important thing for me. I als know how much thinking and drawing/sculpting is recuired to help others understand your point.

So I would realy like to thank you for doing this for me.

I could say your Art is very much apreciated

This is a new drawing I made up from your comments.

Would like to hear your opinion ..... And thanks for letting me figure it out myself through your guidance. It would be so easy to draw what I need for you but that would teatch me nothing......

Best regards, Jeroen Compagne

[TRK]

Looks like that should do the trick.

[Bikemad]

Looks like that should do the trick.

You took the words out of my mouth CeZar!

Jerry, if you wanted to you could switch between both devices with a single sub miniature Double Pole Double Throw three way latching toggle switch (On-Off-On type) like this:



Up = Cycle Analyst Controlled (Speed/current limited)

Mid Position = Unrestricted mode (Off road use)

Down = Basic Throttle Restricted mode (Set for legal highway use)

You might also want to consider a splash proof cover to keep the rain out:



Now you've got even more to think about.

Alan
 

[GM Brazil]

I think that it should be "stealth", at least the cop speed limiter

 

[Jazzjerry]

So No xtra diode needed when I use ground from the cycle analyst?

Thanks guys and especially Alan for the help. I will keep you guys posted with the outcome of mt electronical experiments.

Jerry.

[Bikemad]

Jerry,

The single diode should be fine, as the simple restrictor does not require one.

I'm assuming it's required to protect the cycle analyst and/or to ensure that voltage from the cycle analyst can't accidentally activate the motor.

Alan
 

[TRK]

So No xtra diode needed when I use ground from the cycle analyst?

Although it shouldn't matter, I think it would be better to use the ground from the throttle itself. 

[Bikemad]

Jerry,

CeZar has a valid point, it shouldn't matter so long as the Cycle Analyst is correctly grounded.

But, if the ground wire from the Cycle Analyst were to break due to fatigue or being trapped etc. the Cycle Analyst would then try to ground back through the restrictor wire instead (if it were switched on), sending a high voltage back through the throttle signal wire, which would cause serious problems.

Normally, the throttle signal wire can only send a maximum of 5volts to the controller, so it might not be very happy to receive the full battery voltage!

Perhaps it would be safer to use the throttle ground for the restrictor, if not, a diode (with a reverse voltage capability higher than the battery voltage) could be fitted in-line with the restrictor just to play safe.

Alan
 

[Jazzjerry]

Ok, Now another pedelic sensor MOD.

I took the magnetdisk


I coloured 1 side (The sensor side red). Just in case polarity matters since there are arrows on the disc that show 1 direction of rotation.


Took the magnets out and tried to fit them in my hex bolt holes on my gears.


Perfect Fit


Now you can see the alignment with the sensor.


Hope this works with 4 magnets instead of 5. But I gues that should not be a problem.

[Jazzjerry]

27 Jan 2010

Dropped a wrench down the bike and discovered the magnets from the previous post have to be fixed with some superglue for sure. Already had that in mind but thought they would not come loose. I had 2 of them attached to my wrench.

For the rest I mounted the circuit box that I showed you guys before.

With the help of a piece of Aluminum I had lying around. I elevated it higher but connected it to the boltholes that where already there made for the Bidon Flask rack.

This is what it looks lke.







Dont mind the mess.......

I am such a lucky guy you know......
My Girlfriend accually does not mind me using the livingroom as a workshop......
I asked her If she would mind and she said.

I like it that you are at home doing this. Otherwise you will be in your attelier even more and I want you around as much as possible.


I love my GF....... never thought I would find one that would like me for who I am....

I am a lucky man.

 

[Jazzjerry]

Fri 29 jan 2010

  Big Bummer today,

The bikeshop got the rims in. He ordered spokes and 2 rims. The place he ordered them from thought thought with these short spoke,,,,, huh they must want a 20 inch rim instead of a 700c.

So after already waiting way too long, I now have got spokes in the wright size but a rimm measuring 20" eventhough I need a 700c 622mm one.

The Bikeshop is now going to find out how to quickly resolve this problem. But my gues is another couple of weeks.

I meanwhile started soldering everything up. I measured the cable lenghts coming from the hub so I can now solder everything in the correct wire lenght.

Will post some pic's soon.

JJ

[Jazzjerry]

Mon 1st Jan 2010

I clipped all the wire's. Thought that would be smart....
So now all the wire's are the correct lenght, and I have been able to get all the electronics where I want it. (out of the way).

It was a lot of work though also because I made some xtra options available by adding the cycle analyst and also by connecting the cycle analyst to function as throttle override.


The start.


Lots of wires.... 


All wired up.


Finished this part. Looks nice and tidy.

Now I just have to hook up the cycle analyst with some xtra electronic components. Still waiting for the components to arrive.
Then resolder the cycle analyst wires that I clipped. And the wireing is finished.

[Jazzjerry]

13 feb 2010

Last update .... The wheel will be respoked and ready on thursday 18th Feb 2010

[Mabman]

Jerry that is one clean build there. In a way it seems like having such issues with your wheel has given you more time to perfect the installation process whereas I have wires zip tied up in a bunch and still using the cheap pin connectors and have a short in my controller cord as supplied from the factory etc. but am not inspired to do anything about them as I am spending my time riding! I did switch to an anderson connector for the power supply before firing it up though, they are a must do addition to any build. I think I finally found a good replacement for the cheezy pin connectors at the throttle/controller interface as seen here: http://www.suresealconnections.com/index.html and just have to find some now. I use my MP on a pusher trailer and need a good connector that is sealed and quick so that I can get rid of the trailer and have my bike back when I want to.

Hope your wheel does in fact come to you on Thursday.

[Jazzjerry]

Thank You Mabby,

I realy hope my wheel turns up on Thursday.And Yes you are absolutely wright in the sence that I had all the time figuring everything out  just perfectly the way I wanted it before riding addiction kicks in....

Soldering it all up in the wright lenght is well worth it though, even if everything ends up at your doorstepp clean and ready to go.

So to everybody new and ready to start E-propulsion from GM do it wright and don't get caught into the quick fix that is promissed. GM is not there yet even though they are close. It takes some DIY to get it to work the way you want it, which made it even more fun for me since now I feel I did some of it myself instead of buying a ready to go kit and consume.....


Greetz JJ