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Ordered my Magic pie KIT 17-11-2009 Netherlands
« on: November 17, 2009, 11:04:55 AM »
Hello Everybody,

Let me introduce myself.
I am Jeroen C from the Netherlands. I have been looking to buy a hubmotor kit for a while now and while browsing the web and reading up on al sorts of stuff I decided to go for the Magic Pie kit. The plug and play idear of this kit made me choose it. I don't have the time to solder my own stuff together and it seems like this kit is simple to install in an hour or so.

To give you an Idear and a review of the complete transaction from start to finish I am going to make this forum message an keep it updated when the status of the kit changes.

So door to door from Golden Motor Home to My home in the Netherlands.

First of all I would like to tell you that I first tried to order the kit through the dutch dealer Devi-Comfort BV.

They answered my first email stating that they could deliver the Pie Kit, After asking them a quote several times I am still waiting for an honoust answer.
In other words they did not reply when I realy wanted to make my order. So I crossed out that option and I have now ordered the Magic pie kit straight from Golden motor.

Here is what I ordered

a 2nd generation Magic pie kit (high speed+hight torque)

MagicPie Rear Kit - 28inch Rim
Item Number MP-28R

The 48v volts lifepo

Lithium Battery Rear Pack - 48V12AH
Item Number LFP-4812S

The battery rack

Rear Battery Sliding Rack - Aluminium
Item Number RAK-001

Pedelic sensor

led lights front and rear

Complete brake set and sprocket.

Shipment costs ended up being 360,00 $

Did not get my invoice yet. Will let you guys know when I do.

Best regards,

Jeroen C
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Re: Ordered my Magic pie KIT 17-11-2009 Netherlands
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2009, 12:20:25 PM »
18 Nov 2009

Today I got a reply and an apology from Devi-Comfort BV in the Netherlands www.devi-comfort.com for taking so long before I got their quote. I was in the quotation proces with GM already and I wrote GM that Dennis from Devi-Comfort bv replied and gave me a quote. Because I save on the shipment costs and have someone to deal with in the Netherlands I choose to buy from them.

Here is the email I got from Devi Comfort bv.

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Beste Jeroen, Dear Jeroen

Mijn excuus voor de vertraging. Excuse me for getting back so late

The Magic Pie kit costs 172,-- euro, The parts below are also ordered.
-1xDisc brake plate 8,93 €
-2xDisc brake activator 17,86 €
-1xConversion gears 7,98
-1xBATTERY, LI-ION-4812S 395,07 €
-1xSliding rack for battery pack 18,78 €

total before tax 19% 620,62

Incl 19% tax 738,54 €

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Re: Ordered my Magic pie KIT 17-11-2009 Netherlands
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2009, 04:11:26 PM »
18 Nov 2009

So I ordered From Devi, (Dennis)

I did not get a delivery time quotation. I explained to Davi in my order reply email that I would like the pie to be delivered within a month.
I hope this can be done. Otherwise I might still order through Golden Motor.

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Re: Ordered my Magic pie KIT 17-11-2009 Netherlands
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2009, 04:31:30 AM »
Is this your first ebike?

If so youre going to love this alternative form of transport.  And you got a Magic Pie  :P.  I just have the old Model: HBS36R running at 48v and two years down the track I am still in awe over its abilities.

It may not be related but made an ebay purchase 10Xlm2576 for chips designing led drivers from China they arrived today after 20 long days.  Such a small package from so far away still managed to make it.  It took some time to arrive to Australia as you could imagine, 17 whole days.  IMO thats pretty good service.  Be patient my friend :D


I am very interested in the Magic Pie and everything about it.

I will be doing some off topic stuff on my led drivers soon so maybe sit back and chat about some things with the other members while you wait.

I used to hate ordering things online as I was always scared they would never arrive.  Over the years Ive mellowed somewhat.

Soon enough the PIE will be yours and ebike freedom will be a reality.
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Bring it on

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Re: Ordered my Magic pie KIT 17-11-2009 Netherlands
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2009, 08:18:44 AM »
Hoi Jeroen,

First of all: thanks a bunch for the detailed post on the ordering process! Living in Belgium, I also checked devi-motion, but their website inspired little confidence at first glance. How did you order the specific model of the Pie (2nd gen, high speed, high torque)? I see no such option on the website. My self-designed trike is going to achieve some good speed so I'll need one of those puppies too  :).

Thanks again, and keep us posted!

Gijs
Meeuwen, Belgium / occasionaly Delft, NL

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Re: Ordered my Magic pie KIT 17-11-2009 Netherlands
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2009, 01:39:43 PM »
24th November 2009

So this is it,

I ordered the Magic pie kit and xtra,s from Devi-Motion (Dennis). Today the Magic Pie appeared in his webshop which is what I was waiting for. Dennis told me he was going to be able to deliver within 4 weeks. To buy Him a bit xtra time I will start counting down from as today. This is what I ordered.



Order summary
       
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Dear J.Compagne,
DeVi-Comfort BV has received the following order with
Order number: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 
    Article       Description       Quantity       Price       Total price       
 
 
    D1000225       BIKE CONVERSION, 28" MAGIC PIE, Rear wheel with integrated motor and controller. Less wiring!. Multi voltage controller from 24VDC up to 48VDC power and speed will increase according the supplied voltage 24VDC-250Watt up to 48VDC-1200Watt.       1       € 190,72        € 190,72   
 
    D1000004       BATTERY, LI-ION-4812S, 0, 5 times life of Lead Acid and 2 times of NiMH, In strong alumium housing, Non-toxic, Compact size and light weight, For all high power output applications       1       € 391,55        € 391,55   
 
    D1000016       BIKE CONVERSION, PED-001 PEDELEC, 21, Pedelec Device (PAS)       1       € 9,11        € 9,11   
 
    D1000017       BIKE CONVERSION, RAK-001 SLIDING RACK, 0, Sliding rack for battery pack LFP?, (Battery and Charger not included!)       1       € 21,47        € 21,47   
 
    D1000018       BIKE CONVERSION, FRONT LED LIGHT, 0, 24/36/48V Led front light only 2 Watt and 7200 MCD output       1       € 9,11        € 9,11   
 
    D1000019       BIKE CONVERSION, REAR LED LIGHT, 0, 24/36/48V Led back light       1       € 10,04        € 10,04   
 
    D1000021       BIKE CONVERSION, DISC BRAKE ACTIVATOR, 6, Disc brake activator       2       € 18,34        € 36,68   
 
    D1000022       BIKE CONVERSION, DISC BRAKE PLATE 140mm, 6, Disc brake rear       1       € 9,11        € 9,11   
 
    D1000023       BIKE CONVERSION, ACC-050 6 speed cassette, 1, 6 speed gear freewheel       1       € 8,43        € 8,43   
 
    D1000185       BIKE CONVERSION, DISC BRAKE PLATE 160mm, 6, Disc brake front       1       € 9,11        € 9,11   
 
 
 
    shipping cost (Belarus)       € 0,00
 
    Payment cost  (By bank transfer)       € 0,00
 
    19% VAT of € 695,34        € 132,11
 
    
 
    Total price        € 827,45

Thank you for ordering with us. The order will be shipped to you as soon as possible.

Again I will keep you guyss updated.

Best Regards,

Jeroen Compagne
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Re: Ordered my Magic pie KIT 17-11-2009 Netherlands
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2009, 02:10:16 PM »
To answer some of your questions,

This is my first e-bike build. (let the PIE be with me soon). I like the Idear of low noise speed. I have realy bad knees and threfore have not been riding a pushbike for several years now. I live in the Netherlands (where everybody ownes 1 bike) Well, to be honoust I dont. I live nearby a national park and I would loe to ride through there without killing my knee's.

For ordering the second generation from DEVI (I think GM only sells 2nd GEN Pie's since the 1st gen was just a prototype) So I trust that the pie is the 2nd gen.

May the Pie's be with us soon......  ;D
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Re: Ordered my Magic pie KIT 17-11-2009 Netherlands
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2009, 08:54:28 PM »
Ok, thanks for the update. Regarding the 2nd gen Pie (and the different versions, the low speed high torque, high speed low torque and high speed high torque), I've seen some confusing information pass by as to whether the high speed versions will be sold in small quantities.

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Re: Ordered my Magic pie KIT 17-11-2009 Netherlands
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2009, 05:37:29 AM »
I sent an email to Dennis at devi-motion asking about delivery times for the Magic Pie (and related components, like battery), he says the shipment will arrive dec. 11th! That's really good news and I'll be ordering as well, very, very soon :)

ps: I might add I sent the email yesterday evening at 22:30, and got a reply at 23:30 already, thumbs up!

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Re: Ordered my Magic pie KIT 17-11-2009 Netherlands
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2009, 08:55:49 PM »
Hello folks!

I am new to this forum and I just wanna say thanks to Jazzjerry, because now I can buy this Magic Pie from devi and the shipping cost is 75% lower than if I would buy the same item from goldenmotor! They would shipp for no less than 260 eur to Slovenia, and devi shipps for 46 eur....

So, Jazzjerry... you saved me 200+ eur THANKS!!!!!
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External Infineon 12fet Lyen edition
48V 20Ah LiFePo4
top speed: 48.6km/h
range: 55km at full speed

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Re: Ordered my Magic pie KIT 17-11-2009 Netherlands
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2009, 12:32:53 PM »
Hello everybody,

I paid my pie kit last week and got a letter from Dennis.

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Beste Jeroen,

 

Wij hebben de betaling ontvangen. Niet alle delen zijn op voorraad, maar zullen 10-12 per luchtvracht naar ons verstuurd worden.

 

 

 

Met vriendelijke groet,

 

Dennis Vroegindeweij

In English this means something like:

Dear Jeroen,

We have received your payment. Not all ordered pieces are in stock but will be shipped (by air) on the 10th of december from Golden Motor to us.

Best regards,

Dennis Vroegindeweij

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Re: Ordered my Magic pie KIT 17-11-2009 Netherlands
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2009, 05:24:55 PM »
Another update 8 dec 2009

Like I explained before, I have not got a pushbike at the moment. So I have been looking around for one and tonight I am going to visit a potential buy.

Its a well known brand in Holland called Gazelle They have been building bikes known for their quality since 1892.



So I found this realy nice 2nd hand Gazelle hybrid that suits me.

I also ordered a seatpost with suspension and a cycle analist through ebay.

So I think I should be sorted soon.

Best regards,

Jeroen



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Re: Ordered my Magic pie KIT 17-11-2009 Netherlands
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2009, 07:54:12 PM »
You didn't say, but I hope you ordered the rear wheel kit.
The front fork on the bike you photographed looks like
an aluminum fork, which is problematic with the
front wheel drive.

I had to replace my fork with a chrome-molybdenum fork
before (ok, after mounting and destroying) my wheel.

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Re: Ordered my Magic pie KIT 17-11-2009 Netherlands
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2009, 10:42:55 PM »
I thought the Magic Pie only came as a rear wheel kit. At least when I bought/ordered the kit they were only sold as rear wheel kits.

I hope they deliver me the wright one.

P.S. I bought the bike.

Its right here in my living room.

Now just wait for the rest of the goodies to arive.

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Re: Ordered my Magic pie KIT 17-11-2009 Netherlands
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2009, 03:53:06 PM »
Did you get your MP? I also orderd from devi and do not know when the shippment will be delivered...
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External Infineon 12fet Lyen edition
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range: 55km at full speed