Changing internal controller to an external?

[grecomaskara]

My battery is 36v 16A LI-ION That one I bought from Goldenmotor...
Shall I have problem? I can not even thing any new problem

[o00scorpion00o]

My battery is 36v 16A LI-ION That one I bought from Goldenmotor...
Shall I have problem? I can not even thing any new problem

I think you should be fine, This is the specs for the GM batteries.

Max Discharge Current: 35A(12AH)/60A(16AH)
Max Continuous Discharge Current: 20A(12AH)/30A(16AH)

The max continuous is the one to watch out for. I am sure you will be able to pull 40 amps for short periods no problem, though I can't guarantee that!

Did you by any chance purchase the cycle analyst with the controller? If you did and if you have problems with excessive current, you would be able to limit the current through the cycle analyst.


Mark

[grecomaskara]

LFP-3616S 36V/16AH is the correct name of the battery.
It is a plan for later to buy the cycle analyst...
As I undertand I have not to push for a long time the throttle.
I ordered the infernon 40A as to not be again in magic controller advendures
I am a dammy in electronics, can you tell me shall I see diferences on riding with the new controller?

[o00scorpion00o]

LFP-3616S 36V/16AH is the correct name of the battery.
It is a plan for later to buy the cycle analyst...
As I undertand I have not to push for a long time the throttle.
I ordered the infernon 40A as to not be again in magic controller advendures
I am a dammy in electronics, can you tell me shall I see diferences on riding with the new controller?

Yeah It's much more powerful than a standard magic controller. Good acceleration, and hill climbing!

You will be able to use full throttle, I don't see why not, as the pie will only consume high amps on take off or hill climbing and once up to speed, it should consume on level ground around 17-20 amps!

[MonkeyMagic]

Holey moley!

Really Mark? Wow that's a hungry pie hey what top speeds are you getting? And what wheel size & controller is Pat running if you were saying he gets a better top speed?

Me curious!

[o00scorpion00o]

Holey moley!

Really Mark? Wow that's a hungry pie hey what top speeds are you getting? And what wheel size & controller is Pat running if you were saying he gets a better top speed?

Me curious!

Pat is running the magic controller, 48v 20 amp VPower battery, and a conhismotor 1kw motor, which I think is similar to GM's 1kw motor!
And 26" wheel. But he has much less torque and has no chance against me on hills.

[MonkeyMagic]

yup they are very similar, and you will find that there is only so many hub motor manufacturers in china but a whole heap of distributors its amazing.

Lol and I always wondered if the guy who made the conhismotor name was Con hehe

[grecomaskara]

Well today I went to the customs and took the new controller.
Now I shall begin the wiring in the wheel.

[grecomaskara]

I did the new wiring in the wheel 
I soldered the 3 phaces wires with the 12awg alphawire and the 5 thin wires with a cat5.
I was trying very hard to make all the wires to be in the hole of the cover so to take them out of the wheel.
A little machine oil helped me to do that.
I put the stator in the wheel and believe me I only touched the rotor and it came in the wheel with a strong way.
The magnets are so powerfull...I have never seen before a motor with that magnets.
Then I managed the wires so not to touch the wheel, I put heat srhring and closed the covers slowly.
At the end I tryied a multimeter to see if the wiring was o.k.
When I started to move the wheel, the multimeter started to give me numbers (volts) and from the 3 phaces.
So I believe that the motor is O.k.Am I right?
Tomorrow is the day of truth.I shall connect the controller.
I want to connect the controller phases wires with a connector that here we name it 'clemens'.
Is a good conection or 40A shall melt it?

[grecomaskara]

I have wiring problems.
The colors of the inferno controller are the same with the wheel's.
But the motor just spin for some cm and nothing at all.
I then started to change the colors and the problem did not solved.
I am afraid if I have hall sencor brake in the wheel.
I noticed that with controller of and no wires connected, there is a little resistanse from the wheel and to the two directions.
Is there a short in the motor?

[Bikemad]

A slight resistance in both directions is perfectly normal, this is just the powerful magnets being attracted to the stator.

Before testing the wheel, I suggest you check that your battery voltage is as least 40V.
(It should be almost 42V if it has just been fully charged.)

You can use a voltmeter to test the hall sensors as follows:

1) Connect the Black meter lead to the hall sensor Black wire.

2) Connect the Red meter lead to the hall sensor Red wire and check for ~5V (with the battery turned on).
    If you do not have a reading of 4-5V you could have a problem with the controller.

3) Move the Red meter lead to the hall sensor Yellow wire and very slowly turn the wheel by hand (with the battery turned on).
    You should notice the meter reading alternate between 0 and 5V as the wheel is moved slowly.
    (Indicating that the Yellow hall sensor is working correctly.)

4) Repeat step 3 for both the Blue and Green sensor wires.

5) Let us know the results.



Alan
 

[grecomaskara]

Well I connected the wires to voltometer as you adviced me, and the results are:

from the wheel thin wires
yellow wire........ 4.22
green wire.........4.22
blue wire........not stable numbers the voltometer is crazy.

from the controller the output thin  wires have:
red.....4.65
yellow...4.99
green...4.99
blue...4.99

Notice that it is a very cheap voltometer....
I understand that the problem is with the (blue wire)  hall sensor.
Must I order that honeywell ss41 sensor to fix it?

[e-lmer]

The Positive/Negative sign for your measurements is important.

With the power on and the controller connected measure
the green-yellow-blue measurements should alternate
when you turn the wheel by hand. 
EG: 5V... is bad. 0V is bad. 
You want 0 5 0 5 0 5 as you turn the wheel slowly.

[grecomaskara]

i have  that 0 5 0 5... with the yellow and green wire only.
the blue one give me random negative and positive little numbers, changing very fast and I understand that I a little current that is generating when I am moving the wheel
and is no right...

[Leslie]

A hall sensor could be bad

The part is Honeywell SS41.

http://www.onlinecomponents.com/buy/HONEYWELL/SS41/