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Hi Terry,

I'm not familiar with the EZKontroller settings, so I don't know what gear/speed options are available or how they might affect the low rpm torque/current. It might be worth contacting your supplier direct and explain your low power/rpm problem to them to see if they have a simple solution.

If you don't have a switch to select different gears, try to make sure the default gear is set to the highest available and see if it makes any difference.

Are there any error codes (blinking LED) on the controller? If there are, check out page 9 of the User Manual to determine what's causing the error.

If you have (or are able to borrow for testing) a smaller pitch/diameter prop, it would be very useful to see what difference it makes to the rpm, current draw and the maximum boat speed at full throttle.

Hopefully you will be able to get it much closer to the expected ~5.5-6 knots. (1.34 x the square root of the waterline length of boat in feet.)

Alan

 
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Hi Alan,

Thank you for the detailed reply. The motor and controller are both liquid cooled and I am confident that overheating isn't the problem. I don't know what a lot of the controller settings mean but the maximum bus current is 150A and from memory I think the max phase current is set at 500A. The max rotor speed settings between 2000 and 4000 have made no difference.

Do you know if the controller gear settings would make any difference? EZ-Kontrol don't provide any setting information.

There are YouTube videos of similar setups in much larger and heavier yachts. One has actually successfully reverted his original gear reduction setup to direct drive. My diesel had about 2:1 reduction and no tacho but I assume the shaft speed would have been around 1200rpm.

The boat now has good torque at slow speeds up to about 3 knots but struggles to go any faster. It only needs a little more grunt. The mystery to me has been why the bus current stays so low under full throttle. load.

Terry
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Hi Tez andto the forum.

I have very little knowledge of the EZ range of controllers, but I suspect that you may well have something set incorrectly in the controller settings if it's only drawing 25A at 700rpm with full throttle.
According to the User manual, the maximum bus current for the B721000 controller is 500A!

Check the Settings for the controller regarding the Max phase current(A), Max rotor speed(rpm) and Max bus current(A) etc. to see if anything is obviously wrong there.

Whilst belt reduction and/or a smaller propeller with less pitch may well be required to improve the efficiency of the motor, I would still expect the bus current to be a huge amount higher than 25A @ 700rpm if the motor is struggling with incorrect gearing/prop size etc..

Perhaps the motor or controller is simply getting too hot and is automatically reducing the current to prevent overheating, but I don't know for sure if this is the default action with the EZkontrol controllers.
If the current draw from cold is significantly higher, then this could be what's happening. :-\

Hopefully, you will be able to monitor their temperatures using the App to see what is happening.

Do you have liquid cooling installed for both the controller and the motor?

Did the original diesel motor drive through a gear reduction unit? If so, what would the original propshaft rpm have been at maximum boat speed?
According to the Dynomometer figures, the HPM-10kW motor achieves maximum power and maximum efficiency @ just over 3,800 rpm, but I would aim for a gear reduction and/or smaller prop etc. that would allow the motor to run somewhere between 3,000 and 3,500rpm at maximum cruising speed.

Alan
 
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Hi everyone,
I am new to this forum and need some advise. I have just converted my 22 ft displacement cabin cruiser from diesel to electric. The setup is a direct drive 10kw 72V bldc Golden motor with EZKontrol 721000 controller. The battery is 24 X 314ah cells in series with jk bms. The system operates smoothly but not reaching potential displacement hull speed. The maximum motor speed at full throttle is only about 700rpm and the bus current approximately 25A. Are there any controller settings that might increase the rpm or will belt reduction gearing and/or a smaller propeller with less pitch be required. The motor revs freely with the propeller shaft disconnected.
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General Discussions / Re: New member with seized 5kW motor
« Last post by Bikemad on October 07, 2025, 01:13:54 PM »
I have just been looking at another post showing the inside of the air cooled motor and one of the photos shows four round (threaded?) holes on the rotor:



I suspect that these holes in the rotor disc will be threaded, and would be used (along with a special puller) to pull the rotor disc off the splined motor shaft.

If the rotor disc has been pushed onto the shaft too far by installing mounting bolts that were too long, then you may be able to use some suitably threaded rod and nuts in conjunction with a solid piece of hardwood (or steel box section) across the end of the motor shaft to pull the disc back slightly:



If (after removing the circlip on the motor shaft) the motor cannot be dismantled easily, you may be able to use a simple puller (similar to the one shown above) with the threaded rod screwed into the mounting bolt holes on the front casing to gently pull the housing/bearing off the shaft.

If the centre of the shaft end has a threaded hole for a bolt, you should be able to use a piece of threaded rod and suitable lengths of wood or piece of metal tubing with a large washer and nut to gently pull the motor shaft back through the bearing and front housing again:

   

Hopefully you will be able to sort the problem with this information.



Alan

EDIT: Additional attachments added to post.
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General Discussions / Re: New member with seized 5kW motor
« Last post by Bikemad on October 06, 2025, 09:56:54 PM »
Hi Marcogi andto the forum.

Unfortunately, I have never had my hands on a HPM5000 motor to dismantle, but I have attached a photo showing the inner components of the air cooled  HPM5000B motor which should give you a good indication of how the air cooled version will come apart.

However, after watching this video, the water cooled version looks like it may be a lot more involved to remove the rotor and stator assembly if the front and main body casing is all one piece.

It looks like you would have to somehow remove the cable glands and then feed all the wires inside the casing before being able to press out the rotor assembly from the front casing.

Just a thought, but if the threaded mounting bolt holes go all the way through the front casing it might have physically locked the rotor if long mounting bolts have been used as their tips may be touching against the steel rotor.

Alan
 
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General Discussions / New member with seized 5kW motor
« Last post by Marcogi on October 06, 2025, 12:11:58 PM »
Hi, I’m a new member.
I have a Golden Motor 5kW BLDC motor that has mechanically seized after a few hours of use.
It’s completely blocked (cannot turn by hand). Bearings are OK, but I suspect a rotor–stator contact or magnet shift.
Can someone confirm the correct internal structure (axial flux) and provide disassembly instructions or photos?
Thanks!
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General Discussions / New Member
« Last post by Wguntz on October 05, 2025, 05:39:22 PM »
Planning to install a Goldenmotor Magic Pie rear hub drive on a recumbent trike, and looking forward to being a part of the GoldenMotor forum!   Thanks!    Wayne
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General Discussions / Re: New to Forum
« Last post by Bikemad on September 30, 2025, 09:35:30 PM »
Hi Joe andto the forum.

Hopefully you will find lots of useful information on this forum.

Alan
 
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General Discussions / New to Forum
« Last post by FloridaJo on September 29, 2025, 03:20:20 PM »
Hi, I just converted a friends trike to e-trike and am now researching all things related to e-motors.
Been an electronic technician since 1985.
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