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Offline Gapy

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Re: Magic pie - Overvolting
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2010, 08:29:20 PM »
OK.. you have a point! Butt..... what if I would replace them with 100V and same capacitty... there should be just a few of them? I would replace only elektrolyts-would transistors take the burdon?

Just a theory-dont yell on me :P

Anyone knows if there is a 60V LFP on a market?
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top speed: 48.6km/h
range: 55km at full speed

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Re: Magic pie problems-PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2010, 01:34:15 AM »
The problem with the batteries of any kind is that they are a 'nominal' voltage.
You risk blowing out your controller if you hook up any battery over the rated voltage.

It's your motor, but it's probably not worth the risk.

You would be farther ahead getting a motor/controller that's rated for the higher voltage.

Just an opinion, but I prefer to keep the smoke inside my electronics.

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Re: Magic pie problems-PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2010, 01:54:18 AM »
Oh my. That was quick.

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Re: Magic pie problems-PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2010, 03:18:25 PM »
yeah yeah... I know..

If it aint broke, don't fix it....

I decided that 48V 20AH LFP will do the job just right:)

By the way-how many amps does a MP pull out of the batts?
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Re: Magic Pie Power
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2010, 04:47:36 PM »
By the way-how many amps does a MP pull out of the batts?

So what about the current rating of the controller ? GM never announced what it was, but I can reveal after testing under a few different conditions with hard starts and up steep hills that the max current is about 28 amps. For the most part it's hard to get it to draw more than about 22 amps and if I had to put a rating on on it I'd say 25a.

Actual running voltage with the 15S pack was about 58v. Peak power draw on 60V (58V) was 1600w. 

As Watts/Volts = Amps then 1600/58 = 27.586Amps, which seems about right to me.

Just out of curiosity, I did a simple stall test on my Magic Pie while it was mounted in a vice on the bench to see what the torque was like. I used a luggage weighing scale hooked into the valve hole and measured approximately 15Kg pull at the rim on 24V and 17.5Kg pull on 48V. (An effective radius of approx. 285mm.)

According to my calculations that's a torque of 42Nm@24V and 49Nm@48V, which seems very good.

On 48Volts that should give about 15Kg (147N) of force at the tyre, which should be enough to pull away on a 10% slope without pedalling.
(Assuming me, bike and batteries etc. will be approx. 100Kg.)

Alan
 

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Re: Magic pie problems-PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2010, 07:48:33 AM »
Glad you got that sorted  :) 

Life(po4) begins @ 48V!!