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General Category => Magic Pie & Smart Pie Discussions => Topic started by: GoldenMotor on April 14, 2012, 03:00:52 PM
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(http://www.goldenmotor.com/magicpie/Mini Pie1.jpg)
(http://www.goldenmotor.com/magicpie/Mini Pie2.jpg)
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What diameter will it be?
TTFN,
Dennis
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When is soon?
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It has been close to two months since you "announced" this. When, what size, what cost? I have a use for this under the right conditions. Or is this just "vaporware" you are thinking of making?
TTFN,
Dennis
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It has been close to two months since you "announced" this. When, what size, what cost? I have a use for this under the right conditions. Or is this just "vaporware" you are thinking of making?
TTFN,
Dennis
The tooling and molds for mass production of Mini Pie hub motor went well. We will officially release this new product in mid June.
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Oy! GoldenMotor!
I have a good friend who wants to get into this electric bike biz. For his needs, the Mini Pie would be an excellent choice. He keeps pointing out other deals and I keep telling him to wait. He's getting antsy and won't wait much longer.
It's early July and your release date is past due.
An update please.
>:(
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I am now starting to find these coming soon announcements funny. I have no information on this motor, no offer to be able to order any. I had a sea order leave china yesterday and they were not even mentioned. Very simular to the announcement of the MP3 that came to market 12 months or so after its first coming soon release! MP2 was the same.
But they are coming soon!!!
lol
Gary
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My previous post wasn't directed at you specifically Gary, but thanks for your input.
How long do your shipments usually take in transit? I ask only to get a feel for the kind of lead time to expect, if and when the Mini becomes more than just vaporware. If the lead time is too great, then i'll encourage my friend to go with another product. He's on vacation at the moment, but i'm pretty sure he'll want to move on this sometime around mid August.
8)
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Smart-Pie in PRODUCTION now!
(http://www.goldenmotor.com/hubmotors/Smart-Pie.jpg)
(http://www.goldenmotor.com/hubmotors/Smart-Pie Drive Kit.jpg)
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Ok, I will ask the obvious questions...
How much?
How soon can we order one?
Thanks,
Dave
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Mini Pie @48V:
70% of max RPM (374) = 262 RPM (= typical loaded speed)
At 268 RPM (very close to our 70% figure) the motor is drawing 692W.
Mini Pie @36V:
70% of max RPM (281) = 197 RPM
At 191 RPM the motor is drawing 500W
Looks to me as if GM has released a lion in sheep's clothing. Well, maybe a lynx or an ocelot in lamb's clothing.
Nice goin' GM.
;)
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Ok, I will ask the obvious questions...
How much?
How soon can we order one?
Thanks,
Dave
It will be available for online order in one or two weeks time. Retail price is about USD290 for complete kit.
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It will be available for online order in one or two weeks time. Retail price is about USD290 for complete kit.
Thank You for letting us know.
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I had a brief conversation with Philip and he did say they are in production now. I have heard this all before though. There always seems to be some delay. Let's hope for the best.
I have just been given the offer to order some of these but I am apprehensive. I know when the MP III was coming out I had three sea orders in a row delayed waiting for the "About to be released MP3".
I'll keep you posted if I have some hit the water. I'm not pre announcing anything this time. When I have some on a boat headed my way I'll let you know.
I do like the concept of this motor though. I have been looking for an excuse to build yet another dual drive bike. Maybe this is it!
I have built a few bikes after my townie dual drive. Somehow I just keep going back to it though. Possibly I have already built my ultimate bike.
Gary
(https://arhservices.co.uk/GoldenMotorCanada/MP3Townie008.jpg)
Another topic was the name. Philip was leaning toward the "Smart Pie". I think I have convinced him the "Mini Pie" is a better name.
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Will the Mini be available without the "smart" controller?
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We will make SmartPie and MagicPie without internal controller available as optional.
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Nice looking motors, but at that size and power geared hubs would be better, ? with he proper materials they are very reliable.
Hey Golden Motor, how about a high performance HUB for us power users ? we need motors that can take 5kw + and be as compact as possible with some kind of water cooling or vented with special corrosive and rust resistant paint inside ?
I love the Pie II running 5kw but it won't go up steep hills for long at that power! ::) I love to ride up very steep hills in the woods.
An internal controller capable of 120 volts max and 80-100 amps would be really cool.
It would sell well with endless-sphere users.
A MP motor at 5kw has to be experienced! ;D
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Hey mark, why not drill the side covers :), cooling galore.....
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Hey Ginge,
Long time eah? What ye riding on these days ?
Yeah could drill the covers but still it's not as efficient as a motor designed for the power.
I'm on me old conhismotor dare I say it on this forum, it's really powerful at 5-6 kw and,will do 40 mph on 60 volts 120% setting.
The pie heats up far less but it's still a good blast around motor. The pie is too slow a wind and while it will climb walls, the conhismotor has the power where I need it most.
I rewired it with the 12 g alpha ecowire. I believe it's the same motor as the golden motor 1000 watt.
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Just received a new shipment of Smart Pies. Here are a few updated pictures of the front Smart Pie. Looks very cool...
Gary
(https://arhservices.co.uk/GoldenMotorCanada/026-3_zpsbcbc9044.jpg)
(https://arhservices.co.uk/GoldenMotorCanada/025-3_zpseb67c831.jpg)
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That new fin design looks much more efficient than the old one. It can finally be called a centrifugal fan. Of course this isn't possible on the rear wheel because the disc is on the same side as the controller.
Does anyone know how much current you can safely put trough this motor? I have done some offroading with the controller set at 20amps and ridden it very hard for half an hour the motor was only slightly warm. This was done in the snow though so it might get hotter in the summer sun. I have just ordered a Lyen 9fet controller capable of 72 volts and 30amps so it would be fun to try some overwatting. I'll probably take this up in the eBike Mod section when I get the new controller up and running. The reason I ordered the controller however was to get rid of the annoying throttle delay of the GM internal controller and make the magicpie more reliable (I have had to open the controller twice already to fix minor problems). The extra speed is of no use to me, but the extra power would be essential on hilly offroading. If the pie dies I'll buy a 1000w torque mac instead, but I hope it doesn't.
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I rewired it with the 12 g alpha ecowire. I believe it's the same motor as the golden motor 1000 watt.
o00Scorpion00o,
How much does it (rewiring with 12g of alpha ecowire) add power and speed to the motor? Could you do the same job for an another motor and I'll buy from you?
Thanks