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Offline MonkeyMagic

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Re: Infineon Controllers
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2011, 09:18:45 AM »
how I missed it?

nobody knows........

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Re: Infineon Controllers
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2011, 11:36:05 AM »
Sorry Mr lyen is a little busy at the mo, however confirmed to me that the sensorless is not pedal first and is an immediate start controller

although its not compatible with the geared motors
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Re: Infineon Controllers
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2011, 01:24:44 PM »
I am wondering if the Infineon controller will have any effect on engine noise. I've heard that the noise may be due to the communication between the controller and the engine. I am skeptical that this is the cause. But, it would be good to hear from someone with Infineon controller experience. 

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Re: Infineon Controllers
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2011, 04:23:39 PM »
I am wondering if the Infineon controller will have any effect on engine noise. I've heard that the noise may be due to the communication between the controller and the engine. I am skeptical that this is the cause. But, it would be good to hear from someone with Infineon controller experience. 


are you talking in relation to the Pie?

Well the pie is quiet enough at speed but it has a satisfactory growl on take off!  ;) There is a lot of current being dumped into it, with my 40 amp anyway! It will be loud enough when climbing steep hills, at slower speeds, but it never bothered me!

As regarding Lyen's controller not being compatible, I thought all the new infineons could drive the geared motors?


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Re: Infineon Controllers
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2011, 07:04:33 PM »
Possibly, but I think there are problems with specific motors, due to high rpm creating a lot of interference....I asked lyen about a month ago when buying a mini monster and he said they didnt work......maybe they work but problematic...

Will have to study more, as ever emails are rush rush rush
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Re: Infineon Controllers
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2011, 07:29:35 PM »
As regarding Lyen's controller not being compatible, I thought all the new infineons could drive the geared motors?

I seem to recall reading about juddering caused by a timing problem with high motor rpm on the sensorless units, which is why they are not recommended for geared motors.
It will drive geared motors at low speed without problem, but the timing problems start to occur as the rpm increase too much.

Alan
 

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Re: Infineon Controllers
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2011, 07:53:58 PM »
I have the Golden Motors Joy Ebike.  The motor is not as powerful and the pie.  But, it still manages to make a baby jet engine noise when I use the throttle.  I need a silent motor.  I was advised on another forum to switch out the controller.  Golden Motors uses an external controller on this build, so switching it out would not be a problem.  But, the question is would that fix my noise issue.



are you talking in relation to the Pie?

Well the pie is quiet enough at speed but it has a satisfactory growl on take off!  ;) There is a lot of current being dumped into it, with my 40 amp anyway! It will be loud enough when climbing steep hills, at slower speeds, but it never bothered me!

As regarding Lyen's controller not being compatible, I thought all the new infineons could drive the geared motors?


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Re: Infineon Controllers
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2011, 08:02:30 PM »
I have the Golden Motors Joy Ebike.  The motor is not as powerful and the pie.  But, it still manages to make a baby jet engine noise when I use the throttle.  I need a silent motor.  I was advised on another forum to switch out the controller.  Golden Motors uses an external controller on this build, so switching it out would not be a problem.  But, the question is would that fix my noise issue.




I doubt changing the motor will make any difference, I had a 1000 watt conhismotor, dare I say that name on this forum


I changed the controller on that motor, not because of noise issues but because I fried my old controller, their old regen controller was bad! anyway it still made noise at a certain speed!


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Re: Infineon Controllers
« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2011, 08:04:31 PM »
I found that the more power you put through the pie, the more noise it made...

My lyen controller makes it really sing :D
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Re: Infineon Controllers
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2011, 08:09:29 PM »

I seem to recall reading about juddering caused by a timing problem with high motor rpm on the sensorless units, which is why they are not recommended for geared motors.
It will drive geared motors at low speed without problem, but the timing problems start to occur as the rpm increase too much.

Alan
 


I think one of the guys over at endless-sphere had a problem with an infineon causing juddering, in the end it turned out he had to increase the phase current and it cured it!

I thought the newer ones had no problems now?

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Re: Infineon Controllers
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2011, 08:22:58 PM »
well ive ordered my MAC 1000W rear..freewheel here we a comin... :o 8)
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Re: Infineon Controllers
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2011, 08:28:38 PM »
well I've ordered my MAC 1000W rear..freewheel here we a comin... :o 8)




What batteries did you get?

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Re: Infineon Controllers
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2011, 08:39:12 PM »
aw man, im still running my homebrew 18650 packs......ill get to lipo one day....keep the faith my man  ;D
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Re: Infineon Controllers
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2011, 08:50:55 PM »
aw man, im still running my homebrew 18650 packs......ill get to lipo one day....keep the faith my man  ;D

They are li-ion? and 1 c?

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Re: Infineon Controllers
« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2011, 08:57:28 PM »
they are 2C 18650 13S8P

i like to use 2 of them on the average journey, 3 if its a biggie :)

15Kgs of batt though.........but 25 miles gives me only a 2V drop :)
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Goldenmotor Magic pie rear ....2000 Watt peak
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