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General Category => Magic Pie & Smart Pie Discussions => Topic started by: MonkeyMagic on January 15, 2011, 04:06:11 PM
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Hey Andrew whats the status on the dual action???
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I've got the Anderson connector. I have been out today and bought a cheap pencil torch lamp. All I need now is some butane gas(lighter refill can) and some solder. I managed to take the terminals out of the original pie Battery anderson plugs.
I cannot get the whole thing runnig yet as I am still waiting for a wheel rim replacement from china. i've tracked it today to my local post depot, and it lokks like arriving Monday. I will then get it to a bike shop to have it relaced.
Tomorrow is looking like the soldering day for connecting the battery leads together on to the terminals and then fitting the Anderson connector.
I will then refit the respoked wheel during the week and then look at joining the throttle wires on the two harnesses/connectors
Should I leave both pies on 24 volt if runnig on the one battery?
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Howdy
You should post a topic 'Andrews Dual Drive' and then we can move the info there ;)
Cool so you are nearly full smiles ahead...
When you pick up your solder, check the price on a entry level 60/80W soldering iron - it may come in handy later anyways. It's worth it considering the coin you splashed out on those big tasty pies.
With the voltage, have both wheels set at the same voltage: or you may get some erratic throttle behaviour. Personally mine performs better on 48v. Still not sure if this is confirmed. Remember if you set them to 24V you have to make sure you monitor the battery well. The BMS in your battery has a low voltage cut-out, and will save it from running dead - but you really don't want to juice your battery out often at all. For best surprise results = set them both to 48V, ride then set to 24V and you would notice the difference if there is one ;)
So you have 2 GM power cables with Anderson connectors, + 1 anderson connector?
Lol I'm not trying to complicate anything, but if you have a rear battery + dual drive then one of your power cables is going to want to go down, and the other straight (toward the front) I had them joined when my battery was on the rear and it was a pain sometimes with the stress on the connector.
Anyways, have a think about this pic if you just remove the GM Anderson connector housing (like you already have) then you can splice the wires, solder your other power cable to the splice and slide heatshrink down to set it, then just click the GM anderson connector back on. Then you can customise the length and keep your connector you bought as a spare
Peace out
MM
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I am in the process of combining two Magic Pie motor wheels to run off a single GM 48v
motor -(I mean battery!!). :D
As there have been some on going questions from myself, all of which have been answered in various places on the forum, I thought best (or Monkey Magic thought best) that I start up a thread to track the progress.
For those who don't know, I have no previous knowledge of e-bikes, kits, electronics, soldering, or batteries, or anything involving electricity! :-\
I have needed lots of guidance so far just to get to the point of preparing two Magic Pie battery cables ready for connecting to one GM 48v battery.
Here's where I stand at present, and to answer monkey's last question about difficulties combining rear cable with front cable and easily being able to disconnect,, here's the answer.........
below you can see that i've 'looped' the rear battery cable to help easy disconnection. With the front cable coming along the bikes top frame tube I will still be able to pull out the connector from the battery without it being arkward or causing stress on the cables. I may also loop the front cable to the rear,, wait and see.
(http://www.arhservices.co.uk/apaclark/Untitled-1-1.jpg)
In short, I need to shorten the front pie battery cable so it is the correct length to meet the rear pie battery connector.
I have a new ‘Anderson 50amp’ battery connector(same as already on the pie cable) so I can solder both battery cables to the terminals of this new connector. With this done I will be able to power up both front and rear pies with the one 48v GM battery.
So far I have purchased a pencil soldering torch for £4.00GBP to heat up the terminals ready to solder as in this video supplied by forum member Dirtyginge..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph7h6rYZnVI&feature=related .... this is the exact process I will use, although on a smaller scale.
Andrew :)
P.S Sorry for any errors, i'vre had a few ciders. I will modify after a good nights shut eye :D
(10 hours later) -you will be glad to know that i'm now sober and can see straight again ;D
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I am in the process of combining two Magic Pie motor wheels to run off a single GM 48v motor.
P.S Sorry for any errors, i'vre had a few ciders. I will modify after a good nights shut eye :D
hehe yeah change that part cider man
Looking good!! You're 1 step away
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Ok, done the soldering with success, i.e joining the two battery cables to one battery connector. the cables have been cut to size perfectly, I have even manged to get the two cables to fit through the rubber connector cover so no heat shrink plastic needed to cover wires and mess.
i will try and get photos up soon but my camera is in work. I'll see if my other half will let me use her camera phone
now to do the throttle wire and connectors. I'm assuming and hoping that I can just twist the wire together (white to white and black to black) and then just crimp on the tiny connectors????
Help Please! :-\
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Hey yeah I think you just need reassurance ;)
Correct - you have seen the wiring pics. Crimp if you like, but remember it is going to be somewhat permenant. So you have solder, just solder them and use electrical tape. Because you have the bag to put all the cables in you may as well solder it in there and save on some crimp connectors.
You have already successfully pulled apart an anderson connector, so if you really want to keep everything 'plug & play' a similiar method applies to take apart the GM quick connectors. Mine were not soldered so I could bend the tangs apart and put extra wires in there. That way you don't solder, create extra wire mass with tape/heatshrink etc. and keep all the connectors in your bag.
Just file an end of a paperclip flat, or if you have a jewellers small screw driver then on the bottom of each quick disconnect plug/socket you will see the metal tang lips that sit near flush with the connector housing. Push down on this with your tool while gently pulling the wire from behind to remove it.
Then use needle pliers to pull apart the metal wire holder and place your extra cables in the plugs/sockets you need.
Then to make it stronger (so it doesnt fall out for some reason) solder them too before clicking back into the small connectors.
So you can keep 1 of your accessory harness complete, then remove all the plugs/sockets off the other and keep them as spare.
I recommend drinking less cider while doing any work to your bike lol
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thanks for the tips. I will see how I get on with combining the throttle wires to the tiny terminals I have spare.
and yes, I had one two many apples last night :D, but I did get a few moments of clarity while planning the Pie modifications
i will post up later if a get a chance today to fiddle with the harness nest of wires.
Cheers
Andrew
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Ok, done the soldering with success, i.e joining the two battery cables to one battery connector. the cables have been cut to size perfectly, I have even manged to get the two cables to fit through the rubber connector cover so no heat shrink plastic needed to cover wires and mess.
i will try and get photos up soon but my camera is in work. I'll see if my other half will let me use her camera phone
now to do the throttle wire and connectors. I'm assuming and hoping that I can just twist the wire together (white to white and black to black) and then just crimp on the tiny connectors????
Help Please! :-\
Yes it’s that simple, I just stripped the skin back off the white and black throttle wires about a 1/2 inch. Then I twisted the new white and black wires in from the second motor. I put the bike on the double stand on a block of wood. Turned it on and tested to see if both wheels spun a bit without the wheels touching the floor. It worked. I added black tape temporarily to road test bike. Then I Blasted all around the neighborhood with a big smile on my face testing the power. It was wonderful! Then I split the brake cables, tested, split the cruise, tested. Then since I have all the plugs I made a 3 sets of “Y” plugs for splitting everything so I could just plug it all together. This was time consuming but was nice. It ended up being a waste of time though. One day I had to trouble shoot why it wouldn’t go and ended up pulling it all apart out on the road to twist thing s together. Then I just soldered it all anyway when I got home.
Gary
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Ok, done the soldering with success, i.e joining the two battery cables to one battery connector. the cables have been cut to size perfectly, I have even manged to get the two cables to fit through the rubber connector cover so no heat shrink plastic needed to cover wires and mess.
i will try and get photos up soon but my camera is in work. I'll see if my other half will let me use her camera phone
now to do the throttle wire and connectors. I'm assuming and hoping that I can just twist the wire together (white to white and black to black) and then just crimp on the tiny connectors????
Help Please! :-\
Yes it’s that simple, I just stripped the skin back off the white and black throttle wires about a 1/2 inch. Then I twisted the new white and black wires in from the second motor. I put the bike on the double stand on a block of wood. Turned it on and tested to see if both wheels spun a bit without the wheels touching the floor. It worked. I added black tape temporarily to road test bike. Then I Blasted all around the neighborhood with a big smile on my face testing the power. It was wonderful! Then I split the brake cables, tested, split the cruise, tested. Then since I have all the plugs I made a 3 sets of “Y” plugs for splitting everything so I could just plug it all together. This was time consuming but was nice. It ended up being a waste of time though. One day I had to trouble shoot why it wouldn’t go and ended up pulling it all apart out on the road to twist thing s together. Then I just soldered it all anyway when I got home.
Gary
Gary, i've just spent hours trying desperately to crimp the tiny terminals in order to keep the connectors. it has been a nightmare!. once crimped it was really difficult 'snaping' them into place in the tiny black connector. I eventually found that a tiny flat head screwdriver helped to push the terminals to the end of the black connector.
I'm sorry for the poor quality photos but can members please check that i've wired the throttle properly.
(http://www.arhservices.co.uk/apaclark/1-5.jpg)
(http://www.arhservices.co.uk/apaclark/3-3.jpg)
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Hi Andrew
Yes it does look correct. Nice job on the battery cable plug as well! You should be able to fire it up for a test to see both wheels spin.
Gary
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i will hopefully try to fire it up once I find something that will elevate both wheels off the ground whilst keeping the bike steady. I think I will do away with cruise control as I have the regen braking on the green horn button at present because I have hydraulic brakes fitted. I will probably use the red button for regen instead of cruise. But to be honest I would like to do away with regen braking too, but even my hydra' brakes are not that good!! i'm sure that once two motors are running I will be thankful for some motor braking! :)
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Hey mate
With your wiring harness in the bag there, if you have a momentary switch laying around, just hook that upto your harness and mount the cruise button under your seat
Then when you go for long rides, just pretend to 're-adjust' your cider spout and enable cruise!
Lol then you can regen and horn to your hearts content
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"The Ciderholic" :D :D
Cheeky monkey! ;D
Cruising the the kerbside fiddling with my saddle bag with the Horn!; it all sounds so wrong :D
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Cheeky monkey! ;D
OK Andrew, I'll use your suggestion. ;)
I just hope MM thanks you for it.
Alan
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Huh? Lol use what suggestion?
I'm not even sure what a cider drink is like, is that like Strongbow?? Haha forgive my ignorance
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Huh? Lol use what suggestion?
MM, take a peek above your avatar and you'll see. ;)
I'm not even sure what a cider drink is like, is that like Strongbow?? Haha forgive my ignorance
Yes, Strongbow is cider.
Cider is made from apple juice which has yeast (and sometimes sugar) added to it and is then allowed to ferment in a warm environment for several months before being decanted and bottled.
Some ciders can be surprisingly strong and should not be consumed in large quantities if you wish to remain upright!
Wild deer become intoxicated if they eat too many rotten apples.
Alan
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I've never read cider being described so eloquently :D
A better description would have been "the champagne of the streets".
monkey, as Alan will know, it comes in many guises, 'scrumpy Cider' being the most best loved and traditional cider, seen by many with lesser palettes as the roughest kind of cider. ;)
Ingredients wise, the most involvement of apples, and the least involvement off additives and fizz the better.
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hehe, as I read this, im drinking Rich's farmhouse cider, from somerset....a county with a rich history of small scale cider brewing
7.5% ABV....truly im going to need a new controller for my liver soon
www.richscider.co.uk
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"Wassailing with mangled Wurzels" as advertised on your link says it all, say no more :D
Ginge, thanks for the help setting up my second pie. I haven't fired it up yet as I need to have the the rim changed on the motor, but hopefully in a couple of days I will get to test drive
Andrew :)
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Lol okay I'll keep that avatar title thanks Alan
And again, top info!! Cheers I'm clear as cider now :D
Oh > Andrew + Gingey you guys need an intervention or something!! haha
And I take it you have been putting off your MP build due to thirst Andrew??
Make sure you ride your dual drive sober okay :P
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Hey how did I become Super Gary? I didn't do that. Is this your work Alan? I don't see any options to change it in my profile. How about "Super G" instead?
Gary
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Hey how did I become Super Gary? I didn't do that. Is this your work Alan? I don't see any options to change it in my profile. How about "Super G" instead?
Is that better Gary?
Alan
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Haha I think I called you Gazza once and you didn't seem to like it ;)
Either way all the names are in compliment !!
Wha't the news anyway Super G ?
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i can't speak on behalf of Super G, but I know he's sleeping better now that my front pie from him is up and running. Yes, you've heard it here first,, I am now in the DUAL PIE club ;D
POWER - The amount of torque from both pies running is really impressive. Hill climbing is now real hill climbing power. taking off now has to be a fairly gentle throttle movement, otherwise the front get light and there can be a touch of wheel spin up front. The bike is now much much better balanced. the front really was way too light and made the bike awkward to move around.
I'm quite proud that I put it together myself and have done so in a neat and discrete way. I'm even prouder that I was patient during the process, and as always there are small problems to get past and tweaks and fabrications to make in a mechanical sense. I feel I have come a long way since purchasing my first ever e-bike kit back in october.
Functionally and aesthetically there have been many modifications made to my bike to tailor it to my prefered needs, and now it has all finally come together.
Anyway, did I mention power? It's strong! i'm very impressed by the amount of power that is generated from both PIE's by just using the one 48v GM battery. less throttle is needed to maintain power/torque on hills. Infact I may have put in a limiting switch.
i have not taken a speed reading yet with GPS, it feels faster, I suspect about 27mph rather than 23mph.
Anyway, did I mention power? It's pretty damn Awesome. it pulls like a train!
I will try and get some photos up soon detailing all modifications, changes, and cable locating i've made.
Andrew ;D
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Hey how did I become Super Gary? I didn't do that. Is this your work Alan? I don't see any options to change it in my profile. How about "Super G" instead?
Is that better Gary?
Alan
Haha, Yes thank You Alan!
Gary
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i can't speak on behalf of Super G, but I know he's sleeping better now that my front pie from him is up and running. Yes, you've heard it here first,, I am now in the DUAL PIE club ;D
POWER - The amount of torque from both pies running is really impressive. Hill climbing is now real hill climbing power. taking off now has to be a fairly gentle throttle movement, otherwise the front get light and there can be a touch of wheel spin up front. The bike is now much much better balanced. the front really was way too light and made the bike awkward to move around.
I'm quite proud that I put it together myself and have done so in a neat and discrete way. I'm even prouder that I was patient during the process, and as always there are small problems to get past and tweaks and fabrications to make in a mechanical sense. I feel I have come a long way since purchasing my first ever e-bike kit back in october.
Functionally and aesthetically there have been many modifications made to my bike to tailor it to my prefered needs, and now it has all finally come together.
Anyway, did I mention power? It's strong! i'm very impressed by the amount of power that is generated from both PIE's by just using the one 48v GM battery. less throttle is needed to maintain power/torque on hills. Infact I may have put in a limiting switch.
i have not taken a speed reading yet with GPS, it feels faster, I suspect about 27mph rather than 23mph.
Anyway, did I mention power? It's pretty damn Awesome. it pulls like a train!
I will try and get some photos up soon detailing all modifications, changes, and cable locating i've made.
Andrew ;D
WooHoo! I demand pictures!
I think you will find it will go futher per charge too!
Gary
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Awesome welcome to the club !!
LOL
I think you forgot to mention about the power :P Hehe glad you're grinning up large there Super Cider ;)
Yes pics would be a treat
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bike before piedum......
(http://www.arhservices.co.uk/apaclark/Picture005.jpg)
Over a dozen hose clips,100 cable ties, and a lot of frustrating moments later..........
(http://www.arhservices.co.uk/apaclark/DSCF2015.jpg)
(http://www.arhservices.co.uk/apaclark/DSCF2006.jpg)
front pie and hydraulic brake caliper and rotor...
(http://www.arhservices.co.uk/apaclark/DSCF2009.jpg)
rear pie and stainless steel torque arm......
(http://www.arhservices.co.uk/apaclark/DSCF2010.jpg)
brake levers, gear shifters removed, four led lights.....
(http://www.arhservices.co.uk/apaclark/DSCF2007.jpg)
(sorry blurred) - changed to a twist shifter for rear derailer, it is actually upside down as it is usually mounted on the right hand sid of the handle bar(numbers are upside down).
(http://www.arhservices.co.uk/apaclark/DSCF2008.jpg)
larger front chain ring (48 tooth), the largest I could find for a 4 bolt crank arm....
(http://www.arhservices.co.uk/apaclark/DSCF2016.jpg)
All surplus cables, connectors, wireness from both pie cables inside frame bag and sealed in a water proof plastic bag......
(http://www.arhservices.co.uk/apaclark/DSCF2019.jpg)
two pie power cables soldered to one Anderson connector, both cable fitted tightly through the rubber connector cover......
(http://www.arhservices.co.uk/apaclark/DSCF2012.jpg)
All wiring running neatly across top frame.....
(http://www.arhservices.co.uk/apaclark/DSCF2011.jpg)
(http://www.arhservices.co.uk/apaclark/DSCF2024.jpg)
FAT 26" x 2.35" Schwalbe 'Crazy Bob' tyres, better than the schwalbe 'big apple' balloon tyres previously tried, the balloon effect suspension becomes completely redundant when tyres are pumped to 40psi.
(http://www.arhservices.co.uk/apaclark/DSCF2013.jpg)
rear brake caliper, caliper mount bracket needed some filing for the caliper to have space between itself and pie hub.....
(http://www.arhservices.co.uk/apaclark/DSCF2027.jpg)
7 speed DNP freewheel with rare 11 tooth end cog.. see here for more detail http://goldenmotor.com/SMF/index.php?topic=2788.0 (http://goldenmotor.com/SMF/index.php?topic=2788.0)
(http://www.arhservices.co.uk/apaclark/DSCF2028.jpg)
Bespoke GM 48v battery cover with an eyelet I punched in for key entry........
(http://www.arhservices.co.uk/apaclark/DSCF2021.jpg)
Finally, Bike fully loaded with bags and battery.......
(http://www.arhservices.co.uk/apaclark/DSCF2025.jpg)
I hope you've enjoyed looking, please ask any questions
Regards
Andrew :)
(http://www.arhservices.co.uk/apaclark/DSCF2013.jpg)
Big fat tyre once again,.....Phwoar! The Dogs B*ll*cks! :D :D :D
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Andrew
Very nice build and a clean look , you have done a very nice job there Andrew... ;D
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Andrew
Very nice build and a clean look , you have done a very nice job there Andrew... ;D
thanks very much :). I want the bike to stay looking like a normal bike as much as possible
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OMFG!
Andrew that is an awesome look! Could a bike look any better? Wow very impressive looking!
You really should be proud of yourself. You really have done something there! Can I use some of those photos on my website? People need to see this!
Gary
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I love that eyelet! :D
I've made a similar cover, and i'll go down right away and punch in an eyelet myself... ;D
Well done job on the rest of the bike! :)
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OMFG!
Andrew that is an awesome look! Could a bike look any better? Wow very impressive looking!
You really should be proud of yourself. You really have done something there! Can I use some of those photos on my website? People need to see this!
Gary
Gary, no problem, please use whatever photos you want. if you need them in any other way, i.e by email, or larger size, please tell me. ;)
Cornelius, it's the attention to detail that makes things what they are, the eyelet was one of the more calmer moments of the modifications as you can imagine :D
Andrew
PS. OMFG - Gary :D :D :D :D
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Excellent detail, that one... ;)
My eyelet are now in place, although the only I had lying around was a (cheap) aluminium eyelet with an inner diameter of 10mm, it fits perfectly. :) Much more elegant than folding up the cover to get the key in... ;)
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Ideas are to share :)
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Andrew, shweeeeeeet !!!!!
also, let me know how the tyres work out for you.....glad to see the andersons went fine for you......
Must admit, im jealous.....must rip bike apart and rebuild straight away
also, where in the uk are you...I noticed in the pic there is sunshine !!!!
regards
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OMFG!
Andrew that is an awesome look! Could a bike look any better? Wow very impressive looking!
You really should be proud of yourself. You really have done something there! Can I use some of those photos on my website? People need to see this!
Gary
If you want i'd be happy to do another photo shoot to get all desired photos you need. these were just quick photos
Andrew
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Andrew, shweeeeeeet !!!!!
also, let me know how the tyres work out for you.....glad to see the andersons went fine for you......
Must admit, im jealous.....must rip bike apart and rebuild straight away
also, where in the uk are you...I noticed in the pic there is sunshine !!!!
regards
South Wales is as far as i'm going to pin point, as far as i'm concerned everyone is a suspect, and everyone is a potential rozzer :D :D
Cheers ginge
Andrew
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What on earth is a 'rozzer' lol
Hey Drew awesome build man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Considering that's your first build can't wait to see what happens next!!
Don't crash it hehe :D
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What on earth is a 'rozzer' lol
Hey Drew awesome build man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Considering that's your first build can't wait to see what happens next!!
Don't crash it hehe :D
Cheers Monkey :) Rozzers = traditional/old nick-name/fun name for the cops. :D
i feel there is nothing left to do to the bike (apart from ride it and enjoy it) that can keep me busy in the present long dark evenings. I want some kind of rear view mirror that does not stick out offensively but that's about it.
I still cannot believe the difference it has made adding the front motor with both motors running off the same battery, it's incredible. the bikes balance, speed, power, take-off, acceleration......, amazing!
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Derrr we tried telling ya ;) haha jks
I had a mirror, then thought it was a bit ghey so I took it off and replaced it with a rearview camera under my seat and a cheap little lcd on the handlebars it works a treat!@!
If you are running AAA batteries in your front LED lights the only thing you might choose to do is run them off your GM battery. You can just wire them to a resistor and solder to the battery terminals so you don't get caught out without lights
I'd leave it, it looks tops the way it is and you shouldn't ride at night all the time anyway :D
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yeah, mirrors are a bit ghey, ha ha. if you have a mirror you also might as well have tassles on the ends of the handle bars and a bell and a basket :D
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How about those small mirrors that fastens onto the end of the handlebars? I'm going to get some of those myself, because with a motor and the speed that comes with it, I really miss mirrors... :)
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http://www.poweredbicycles.co.uk/details.asp?ID=705 (http://www.poweredbicycles.co.uk/details.asp?ID=705)
this has potential, although i'm not sure if it will see past panniers on the rear rack?
This also, if positioned where it mirrors a gap under the arm if mounted on handle bar or frame...
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/zefal-spy-mirror/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=base&utm_campaign=products (http://www.wiggle.co.uk/zefal-spy-mirror/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=base&utm_campaign=products)
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With one of these, you won't need any mirrors on the bike:
(http://images.ip.com/pageimg/patent.uspto/03/978/03978526.tif?t=B36J80H6EA33A49BD7A68A65A36806&w=fp2&r=US3978526)
This is the Reevu cycle helmet incorporating the above periscope system:
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/9/10/1252578700905/bike-blog-Reevu-cycling-h-001.jpg)
And here's the motorcyle version:
(http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motorcycle-helmet/reevu/reevu-msx1-gunmetal.jpg)
And this is supposedly what the rider sees:
(http://www.reevu.com/images/fr.jpg)
The rear view system on Reevu helmets works on the same principle as the rear view mirror on a car windshield.
Our testers have commented that eventually you are able to maintain awareness of the road ahead and behind without making a conscious effort.
This quite simply transforms your cycling experience. We encourage wearers to make that all- important check over their shoulders before manoeuvres.© Reevu Limited 2002
Check out this youtube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_SYeMZnSAE&NR=1) demonstrating a simple DIY version of rear view helmet mirrors.
Alan
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periscope, now we're talking! that's a pretty cool idea.
though i'm not sure about the coat hangers and milk bottle tops look :D
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That's awesome !!!!!!!
I like the helmet, not sure about the hanging mirrors I'd have to hold back on tying a carrot on there too ;)
Hey these could be cool mirrors (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/CHROME-STREET-FIGHTER-MIRRORS-HONDA-DUCATI-YAMAHA-/370452752179?pt=AU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5640b46733) if you mounted them under the handlebars. Not sure about looking down too see what's behind you though...
I want one of those Revo helmets now I've never seen that before
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Hi Andrew
rozzers ?? how could you.......but alas I also have the duals ........and yup, you are right, power yeehaaaaaa, now all you got to do is avoid the cops, better to build in some "safety systems" :)...PM me for details, but the cycle analysts work a treat, be aware UK regs only allow for one motor regardless of speed / power....
as regards the mirrors, I use a smaller version of this
http://www.cyclexpress.co.uk/Products/Z_Eye_Helmet_Mirror.aspx
I find that anything on the bike vibrates too much to be of any use, they do become very second nature
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be aware UK regs only allow for one motor regardless of speed / power....
If one of the throttles is disconnected, you would basically have an ebike equipped with one electric hub motor and one hub dynamo/electrodynamic brake unit. ;)
Perhaps GM should offer revised lettering on the hub to read GoldenGenerator or GoldenDynamo instead of GoldenMotor to avoid any confusion. ;D
"Sorry Mr Policeman, I fully understand how you may have jumped to the wrong conclusion, but that's not a high power motor, it's a super efficient hub dynamo that powers my ultra bright 16Watt 1400 lumen LED lights which are fitted for increased road safety. It also charges up this 48V 16Ah battery to ensure the lights continue to operate at their optimum safety level, even when the bike is stopped!"
"Of course I can explain that 4826 Watt Maximum Power reading, I've just fitted this device to monitor my dynamo output and the unit still needs to be calibrated to match the non-standard inductive current/voltage sensing device. And that 63mph maximum speed reading is obviously wrong, must be due to road vibration affecting the reed switch inside the speed sensor!"
"The squashed flies on the lights? Oh, I guess that must have happened while travelling down the motorway with the bike on the roof rack"
It's good to know that there's usually a logical explanation for most things! ;)
On a more serious note, has anyone here actually tried the Magicshine MJ-816 Light unit?
(http://74.86.122.244/images/36018_1.jpg)(http://74.86.122.244/images/36018_2.jpg)(http://74.86.122.244/images/36018_4.jpg) (http://www.magicshineuk.co.uk/Magicshine-Bike-Light-Set-MJ-816-1400-Lumens-/4675-v)
Alan
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sheeeeeesh, now thats lighting
Nope, been runinng hope LED duals for years, more light than you;ll ever need.......still it would be nice to flash oncoming drivers who wont dip their lights, and this could indeed be the one
regards
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i've got a dual sscp7 lead on my bike, 2 of those 900 lumen, manufacter stated, light.
1800 total, no need, just for fun
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Hi Andrew
rozzers ?? how could you.......but alas I also have the duals ........and yup, you are right, power yeehaaaaaa, now all you got to do is avoid the cops, better to build in some "safety systems" :)...PM me for details, but the cycle analysts work a treat, be aware UK regs only allow for one motor regardless of speed / power....
as regards the mirrors, I use a smaller version of this
http://www.cyclexpress.co.uk/Products/Z_Eye_Helmet_Mirror.aspx
I find that anything on the bike vibrates too much to be of any use, they do become very second nature
:D Sorry mate, no offence meant. I'm just a bit jittery about the two pies. Always looking over my shoulder on my bike- if you know what you mean,...... hence wanting a rear view mirror :D :D
I do feel like I need to have a speech prepared come the day....
"Officer? Fast? was I?,... there are magnets in the hubs, you know?, they act like a water wheel to make pedalling a bit easier. Oh the battery?,,, that's just to give the magnets little pulses to get the waterwheel turning. The hubs also help you brake, as you can see there are large disc rotors attached to them for strong braking. You can buy similar kits in Halfords,,, honest ;D" (halfords = bicycle general stores in every shopping complexes)
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Lol somehow I think Alans scenario would go down better...
You don't want to get questions like 'where does the water go' and if even better if they ask you to, or try to pedal themself hehe
"Hey you said these things make pedaling easier!!"
;)
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you're probably right, but it does sound like the cops near you are a lot brighter than the ones near me ;D
Anyway, would it be possible to hook up one off those magic shine lights to the pie battery or system?
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you need to change the voltage
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so a matter of having a DC-DC voltage converter 8.4v - 14watt output?
Sounds like more hassle than it would be worth.
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PM sent for you andrew, some details than might help ;)
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PM sent for you andrew, some details than might help ;)
Replied ;)
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You guys need to get a room ;)
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hehehe you cheeky monkley ::)
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cheers for the email ginge, most interesting :)
and don't worry about the monkeys comments, he's probably got bells, baskets and tassles on his bike,,, says it all ;)
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hey don't knock it 'til ya try it ;)
(http://www.intraining.com.au/movengroove/images/shoe%20bike%20.jpg)
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Monkey,
That version appears to be fitted with "eight foot" wheels, whereas the original (see attachement below) had two six foot wheels, and each one was a different diameter. Disc brakes were the preferred option as loose laces would regularly become entangled in the calipers, causing major problems with the toe-in and heel alignment.
When fitted with Dr Martin air cushion soles, they gave a very comfortable and sure footed ride, but unfortunately they were susceptible to punctures, and many riders ended up with flat feet.
Mind you, it's surprising how many "foot pounds" of torque could be applied before they would start heelspinning. ;D
Alan
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:D where do you guys find this stuff? was there ever a 10 foot model? lol
Gary
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They had it all sorted in 1972. I might just have to get a lamp/sun shade for my bike.
great use of imagination, their Dad must have been a legend, it looks like they've just ridden through a jumble sale and everything stuck to them
(http://www.arhservices.co.uk/apaclark/3137754.jpg)
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:D where do you guys find this stuff? was there ever a 10 foot model?
I haven't seen a ten foot version, but some motorcycles used the six foot design:
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr316/Durhhhh/DC_Shoe_Bike.png)
(http://www.strangevehicles.com/images/content/147049.jpg)
And here's a photo of a wheel under construction:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4KQtKRUE3ws/TI-B_UFWpnI/AAAAAAAAAA4/jo0rXOCF-9g/S220/DC+Shoe+Wheel+in+Aus.jpg)
The unicycle version is attached below.
Alan
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:D where do you guys find this stuff? was there ever a 10 foot model? lol
Gary
I just typed "silly bike" in google images and viola ;)
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im not sure if its the community or the homebrew.i see bikes with shoes.......there is definitely a disturbance in the force.........heck, must be homebrew, time for another pint ;) if its this good....we all live in the yellow submarine yellow submarine yellow submarine ( Ginge rocks back and forth, singing, on another fine batch of wine)
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I just typed "silly bike" in google images and viola ;)
Haha, I just tried that and I could upload an endless supply of pictures of odd bikes. It was very entertaining and my kids loved it too!
Gary