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Offline moopro

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I need help with external controller wiring to Magic Pie motor.
« on: September 22, 2011, 09:58:11 AM »
My internal controller is not working so I boght the external one ,Where should I Connect the motor ? (how)
should I opten the motor covers and solder new cables? or just use the old cable coming out from the motor?

How can I confirm if the motor is working or not? is there any place I can test it?
« Last Edit: September 22, 2011, 01:04:34 PM by moopro »

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Re: I need help with external controller wiring to Magic Pie motor.
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2011, 10:10:14 PM »
Please only post your question once in the correct
forum.

This question is not a user guide/catalog question.

You must open the Magic Pie by removing the side cover.

Once open, you must disconnect the internal controller from
the three motor main leads and the 5 hall sensor leads.

Extension cord wire will work for the motor main leads, and
telephone wire will work for the 5 hall sensor leads.

You will take these eight wires and run them out through
the Magic Pie axle (after filing the edges of the slot
in the case to make them smooth.)


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Re: I need help with external controller wiring to Magic Pie motor.
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2011, 11:07:25 PM »
Sorry for wrong posting.
I removed the old controller but I was not able to remove the bearing wheel to remove the old cable! (its hard to remove the cable without removing the bearing wheel !, is it possible to remove it?
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Re: I need help with external controller wiring to Magic Pie motor.
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2011, 12:40:14 PM »
Moopro

You need to remove the circlips. You can do this without Circlip pliers but you will most likely damage the clip rendering it useless.

If I were you, I would buy some circlip pliers and safely remove the clips.

When I was frustrated, I filed down a set of long nose pliers into somewhat circlip pliers that worked well for all of 2 minutes lol

Go down to your local auto/hardware store and buy a set of circlip pliers, and if they have a bulk multipack of circlips buy them too. Get some spares you will need them.

You can assemble your wheel back without circlips but you will most likely have problems in future, so do it right the first time :)

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Re: I need help with external controller wiring to Magic Pie motor.
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2011, 02:12:22 PM »
Thank you for replies!  now I have connected everything and connected the battery for a test ,the motor is finally running , I was very happy for that . now the problem is the motor is going in reverse as default. is there anything wrong with my cables?
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Re: I need help with external controller wiring to Magic Pie motor.
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2011, 03:29:51 PM »
I believe you can swap any two of the three main drive leads and the motor will reverse with no ill effects.

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Re: Reversing the motor
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2011, 01:48:38 AM »
I think you'll need to swap two phase wires and two hall sensor wires of the same colour as well.

Try swapping the green and yellow phase wires and the green and yellow hall wires, and don't forget to let us know if this works correctly.

Alan
 
« Last Edit: September 25, 2011, 02:06:03 AM by Bikemad »

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Re: I need help with external controller wiring to Magic Pie motor.
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2011, 12:28:10 AM »
e-lmer:
swapping those cables will NEVER work (all the 3 cases) ! I've test it and it makes horrible sounds from the motor (going back and forward) when you throttle.
The solution for this problem was so easy! it made me laugh! I just turned the wheel to the opposite direction and everything was fine!  ( I made that mistake because the wheel was upsite down)  :D)

Bikemad: I did not see your post before it was fixed!  ( I did not touch the hall sensor cables ) only the motor cables. it did not sound good!  :D
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Re: Motor doesn't run in reverse
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2011, 10:43:47 AM »
Bikemad: I did not see your post before it was fixed!  ( I did not touch the hall sensor cables ) only the motor cables. it did not sound good!  :D

That explains why it made horrible sounds, if you had changed the corresponding hall sensor leads as well, it should have run smoothly in the opposite direction.

But at least you managed to find a simple solution to the problem. ;)

Alan