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Re: internal to external to infineon 45A controller change....my thoughts
« Reply #60 on: April 03, 2011, 01:07:53 PM »
heres one that make you laugh though....the embarrasing bit..

so I had the issue come up whilst standing on the road, stopped the wheel by brake, then the controller detected the fault condition and reset after 5-10 seconds....

Next time, I thought id be clever...hey this time ill test it on the grass, so if the wheel spins out, it will spin on the grass verge, and I wont risk burning out the motor...what can possibly go wrong lol....hmmm schwalbe big apple like traction with 18kg of battery weight...
Ginge wiggles cable pack, gets dragged 5 metres along this grass verge, unable to reach brake, before the front wheel meets nicely with a drain gulley, which was designed with the sole purpose of stopping front wheels........bike stops, Ginge stops, eventually ginge's chestnuts stop ( on the bar mind), and Ginge supermans over the bars to land gracefully on a nice soft grass cushion....lol
 

lol if only there was video of this! Did you spill your drink?

Gary

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Re: internal to external to infineon 45A controller change....my thoughts
« Reply #61 on: April 03, 2011, 03:36:20 PM »
The only comparison my memory can make is, you know in the old western films, when a man is dragged behind a horse by the rope... :)
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Re: internal to external to infineon 45A controller change....my thoughts
« Reply #62 on: April 03, 2011, 05:35:13 PM »
Now I also have this Infineon controller (12 fet Lyen 4110) connected to my pie... It is a beast!!! Really...
The top speed is now 48 km/h(120% settings) - I know just 8km/h diffrence, but it feels a lot! The torque is awsome-I had to bring the amps down! Now I am running on 23A continious and 50A phase!

While It was on 30A continious I could not stopped it-it was dragging me all ower the garage :o

So this week I going to ride it and If the speed is still not what I need, I'm going delta ;D
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Re: internal to external to infineon 45A controller change....my thoughts
« Reply #63 on: April 03, 2011, 10:27:32 PM »
you know what.....its a monster

i Had poor webby...five minutes of his poor pie install,... now try this, gave him the himalayan infineon pie, like watching a drunk trying to cycle down a steep hill..he loved it....

got mine on 30 amps, 70 phase....glad you liked it ;)
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Re: internal to external to infineon 45A controller change....my thoughts
« Reply #64 on: April 03, 2011, 11:52:03 PM »
so we have confirmation on the top speed increase??

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Re: internal to external to infineon 45A controller change....my thoughts
« Reply #65 on: April 04, 2011, 08:36:22 AM »
yup, real world for me about 5MPH.....
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Re: internal to external to infineon 45A controller change....my thoughts
« Reply #66 on: April 04, 2011, 09:20:17 AM »
soooo 35Mph?

I'm trying to decipher this lol

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Re: internal to external to infineon 45A controller change....my thoughts
« Reply #67 on: April 04, 2011, 10:23:52 AM »
I had the great privlege of trying Ginge's himalayan infineon pie - yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepers! It was a very very steep hill up and just kept pulling and pulling and pulling. I was too scared to open it back down the hill though  :-[ It can pull a wheelie for sure.

Hey Ginge - I went on first simulated commute earlier, 21.1 miles in 55 minutes with average comfortable pedalling. One battery and still showing green on the battery meter at the end. Physically it feels like I just did a couple of miles on traditional bike on a flat with light wind behind me  ;D ;D ;D (proper commuting starts tomorrow)

Where did you purchase the Infineon 12 FET Lyen 4110?? I'm saving up already.

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Re: Top speed with Infineon 45A controller
« Reply #68 on: April 04, 2011, 10:25:00 AM »
soooo 35Mph?

Noooo 30mph!

4-5MPH speed increase in real world flat road, top speed increased from 25MPH to 30MPH, ( bit slow getting to the top from 27-30...)

The top speed is now 48 km/h (120% settings) - I know just 8km/h diffrence, but it feels a lot!

48 km/h = 29.8258 mph
8 km/h   = 4.971 mph

Obviously these figures will vary with battery voltage, wheel size and frictional/aerodynamic resistance etc.

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Re: internal to external to infineon 45A controller change....my thoughts
« Reply #69 on: April 04, 2011, 11:20:15 AM »
If you lift the wheel, it will spin at 35MPH, but real world with 18KG battery and 95 KG rider is 30MPH

now that for sure will change with higher voltage, which apparently accoring to Mr Lyen can be done up to 84V without modification .....

For me personally, 30MPH is fast enough...it was wet and I was bricking it :D....but for a simple software setting change, 5MPH was a nice surprise

I don't know if the software change and more phase amp will increase it further, will check when I get time, but gotta spend some time with the kiddies while they remember who I am ;)
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Re: internal to external to infineon 45A controller change....my thoughts
« Reply #70 on: April 04, 2011, 11:27:13 AM »
email lyen@hotmail.com, he will give you pricing and options....

if you wanted one of these controllers, I must seriously advise either very hardened steel forks, but in reallity, probably a rear pie only....this much power going through the front forks  I just cannot see being something that will end well.....

p.s. got my Full face DH helmet today....i love my face ..wanna keep it

Glad you are enjoying your pie Mr Webby.....;.glad you enjoyed mine too,...its a bit too light at the front though, hopefully will rectify that later

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Re: internal to external to infineon 45A controller change....my thoughts
« Reply #71 on: April 04, 2011, 01:41:04 PM »
So I was right about the speed then lol

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Re: internal to external to infineon 45A controller change....my thoughts
« Reply #72 on: April 04, 2011, 01:53:10 PM »
dirtyginge:

I just want to know how in the hell did you get this 12AWG wire through....

I was lucky to get 3x1,5mm (AWG15) and 6 utp cables (LAN cable) for sensors! It is working quite well though... Cable is a bit warm, but nothing serious, even on 30A setup...
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Re: internal to external to infineon 45A controller change....my thoughts
« Reply #73 on: April 04, 2011, 03:05:53 PM »
well it was an only just, with shrinkwrap on the 5 small hall wires as I couldnt get a lan cable in there with the three other wires.....bloody tight though.....lots of bending the wire before placing it in the right angles etc....more beer .....etc more beer etc .....
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Re: internal to external to infineon 45A controller change....my thoughts
« Reply #74 on: April 04, 2011, 08:20:27 PM »
,...its a bit too light at the front though, hopefully will rectify that later



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