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Offline Major Clanger

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3KW BLDC speed control
« on: August 10, 2021, 11:57:21 AM »
Hi

I am in the process of specifying an electric propulsion system for a boat I am building and having trouble understanding the GM 3KW data sheets.  I am using a fixed pitch propeller meaning the speed of the boat will be controlled by the rotational speed of the prop - more revs, more speed and greater motor current draw.  However the GM spec sheet and graph shows a more or less fixed motor speed of 4k rpm and a current draw and power output based on increasing motor load in Nm.  This would be great if I had a variable pitch prop, but I don't

So what I want to work out is if I move the boat at 3 Knots I will pull X Amps and if I increase the prop speed and make the boat go at 6 Knots I will pull Y Amps (with all the values in between) and therefore my expected battery duration (at a set battery capacity) at different speeds.

Is there a data sheet available that provides details of increasing current draw based on motor speed and a fixed load?  Am I looking at this all wrong?

Thanks

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Re: 3KW BLDC speed control
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2021, 09:51:54 PM »
Hi andto the forum.

Unfortunately, the dynamometer figures are all that's available for the 3kW motors and this is the typical way of measuring the actual power output from a motor.

Without having a chart for your particular propellor showing the power requirement of the prop for given rpm it is difficult to know how much power you will need.
Also, the Power requirements for a particular RPM will vary significantly according to the speed of the boat, as the power being drawn to maintain a set rpm will be much greater when stationary and will reduce as the boat speed increases.

I think that the propellor should be suitably sized/geared to allow maximum speed at approximately 3,100 rpm, so that 4kW of output power will still be available at full speed.
If the gearing is too low (or the pitch and/or diameter of the prop is too small) the motor will be unable to produce maximum power due to excessive rpm caused by insufficient load on the motor.
If the gearing is too high(or the pitch and/or diameter of the prop is too large) the motor will be overloaded, causing it (and the controller) to run hot and be very inefficient.

I presume that the hydrodynamics of a boat will be similar to the aerodynamics of a land vehicle (i.e. the power is roughly proportional to the cube of the speed) which means that it would require eight times the energy to double the speed.
Therefore, doubling the speed would effectively reduce your available range by more than 75% and your battery duration by more than 87.5%!

Here's an easier to understand example:
If your fully charged battery can only power your boat for two hours at a steady 3 knots, it would have a maximum range of ~6 nautical miles.
However, the same fully charged battery would probably last ~15 minutes at a steady 6 knots, giving a maximum range of ~1.5 nautical miles.

I suspect that empirical testing will be necessary to determine how much power is actually required at different speeds by running the boat at various speeds and measuring the motor's power consumption.

Alan
 

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Re: 3KW BLDC speed control
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2021, 12:13:02 PM »
Thanks Alan.

In the absence of any other motor data, I agree, looks like empirical testing will be required.  I was starting to think I might be missing something but clearly not.

Guy