Actually I just noticed that the cassett size seems to be the same regardless of the gears added .. seems like the chains / gears get smaller / thinner as well
yet to measure the 8 STX ( but I might have to go 9 XT as I can not seem to be able to find any 8 STX-RC / XT cassetts anymore )
guessing their is no way to still use my quick release setup on my hubs either
cheers for your replies
still trying to work out how I am going to mount an bike stand on this frame
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rear
150mm outside fork
135mm inside fork
8 x cassett was just a bit past 55mm
front
120mm outside fork
100mm inside fork
75mm minimum distance
I might just mount 1x front wheel if a rear will not fit ... after all the bike wheel stands as it is with its high man power torque
plus the front as 1cm thick torque tabs anyhow
its an mongoose NX 8.3 frame STX-RC and XT-RC gear