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Offline Sam.Vanratt

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Magic Pie III and PAS only configuration
« on: July 30, 2013, 03:39:19 PM »
Hello
I'm currently upgrading my bike (MiFa 7770) to an MP3. I got a complete kit but unwilling to have more controls than necessary applied.
So I will use a simple ON/OFF battery switch (36V) and a 12 pol PAS Sensor (Throttle) and brakes (for rekuperation). No Cruise, thumb controller, horn or anything else. I need to attach my lamp to the 5V out.
Questions:
Is it possible?
What settings in the PD280 is necessary and recommend?
How much A does the 5V out accept (200mA, 1A, ...)?
How do I seal the fanout cable?
Is there a buyable plug so I can directly attach the PASand brakes  and 5V out?

Cheers
Sam


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Re: Magic Pie III and PAS only configuration
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2013, 08:59:55 PM »
Hi
no comment or is my question so special?
Is there a way to reach GM Techs. My last two email didn't reply and the German Distributor was not knowing how to config my needs (PAS only). Since a few weeks they dropped GoldenMotor distribution so no way in sight....
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Sam

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Re: Magic Pie III and PAS only configuration
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2013, 08:42:28 AM »
Hi
Does anyone have a (responding) email adress from GM for my question? My seven mails to GM (sales@goldenmotor.com and support@goldenmotor.com and info@goldenmotor.com) where not answered.
As I want to use my gear soon I need to know what to programm and if PAS only works at all, else I have to sell my MP3.
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Sam

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Re: Magic Pie III and PAS only configuration
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2014, 02:37:02 PM »
I did have a working solution, but it need's addons. The MPx PAS solution needs a throttle as the PAS only enables the Throttle to engage.
One possibility is to use the PAS not with the MPx but with an external Logic to do a Frequency-to-Voltage conversion. It's simple "more Pulses from the PAS gets more Voltage" which supplies the Throttle in.
With an more intelligent PAS sensor it could even be used for back pedal brake detection (=> recuperation). The circuit is much simpler than it may sound duie to the pure analog regulation.
My MP3 is using the default MPx circuit and the MP3 is quite hard to regulate with it, just as promised. To get rid of the thumb controller I needed to put the 5V Throttle In after a 2sec wait when it's powered on (due to a wrong input detection control). I planned to use a simple "high pass filter" but it needed one additional wire, so I stayed with a simple on/off switch, which I had to manually switch to start riding; the regulation is quite crude. When my MP3 failed just after a few hours I planned to switch to the MP2-Ext. Controller config, but didn't have time for a complete redesign. There are a lot of ext Controllers better fitting the EU regulation and easier to upgrade when more modern (Sinewave, three line bridges or inline regulation Bluetooth) functions are available.