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Hi to all,

I have built an E-Trike with my son. Everything is ready, but the Magic Pie 4 wheel does not turn
and I am quite desperate.

What I already tried:
At the beginning I had a used 24V battery and it did not fonction and no light on the throttle bar (what I found to be normal afterwards).
There was a click at the controller (which should be normal).
I purchased the USB cable and checked if 24V was selected in the program, it was.

I thought the battery was the problem (because it was showing quite high voltages of up to 32V), so I purchased a new 48V battery with up to 1500 W.
I set the voltage to 48V using the USB cable.
I downloaded the new value to the controller.
I removed the USB cable and shut off the battery afterwards.
The battery is charged.
The lights on the throttle bar are on when the battery is on, BUT
again the wheel does not react at all when pushing the throttle....

 Can anyone please help me, I really want this E-Trike ready for my son...

Regards,
Gilles
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General Discussions / Re: Controller Power Limit?
« Last post by GrandeDan on March 03, 2025, 02:28:50 PM »
I should add that the controller model is EZ-A48500
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Electric Boat Conversions / Re: Water Cooling Mass Flow Rate?
« Last post by GrandeDan on March 03, 2025, 02:25:21 PM »
I should add that the controller model is EZ-A48500
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General Discussions / Controller Power Limit?
« Last post by GrandeDan on March 03, 2025, 01:40:04 PM »
Hi All,

I recently had a problem with my motors throttle system. I am using a 5kw BLDC motor and a potentiometer as a throttle. I was using my motor for about 30 minutes just fine. Went to do something else and when I came back a few hours later to use the motor again, I had low power.

My bus amp limit set on my EzKontroller was 92 amps and I was only seeing 35.
The motor and controller were not overheated as it had just sat for hours and never got hot during the first use time.
As I was trying to troubleshoot, I had the throttle at full power, it started to rise from 35 amps up to my limit of 92 amps out of no where.

My ultimate question is, was this a controller limit that I am unaware of with EzKontroller or was this most likely an issue with my potentiometer?

TYIA
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Electric Boat Conversions / Water Cooling Mass Flow Rate?
« Last post by GrandeDan on March 03, 2025, 01:33:19 PM »
Hi All,

I am working on using the liquid cooled 5kW BLDC motor to run my boat. I am having trouble with cooling though. I have a 5kWh battery and am trying to run wide open for that hour. There doesn't seem to be enough cooling and the motor overheats. Does anybody know the mass flow rate of water that needs to be running through the cooling passage to cool the motor?

Side note: I am using sea water and not a heat exchanger.
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General Discussions / Re: New member with a few questions
« Last post by Bargo on February 23, 2025, 03:57:01 PM »
Thanks a lot Alan, I appreciate your kind words. I think I have burned the throttle twist itself which is not my concern (reads 75 Ohm between 5v and ground), I was concerned about the throttle controller itself (the one inside the wheel)

I re did the wirings check, and all wires seems to be decent, no shorts. I mounted the cables again, disconnected dead throttle switch, and to my surprise I was measuring voltage from the control harness 5 pin (throttle signal reads  0v) the 5v reads 4.8v but something surprised me happened, while measuring the 4.8v I switched to the resistance mode in the meter, and when measured the 5v the wheel gets spinning as I'm throttling. Not sure what is going on, but something I cant explain, except that in resistance meter, I get some conduction going.

if I connect the 5v with the throttle signal pin, I just hear a click but no movement. Only when I probe that 5v pin with the positive resistance to ground I get the spin :)

resistance is measuring 15-20k OHM On most signal pins, sounds like correct, 5v to throttle signal measures (+19K Ohm)

The cruise signal reads at 3v signal.


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General Discussions / Re: New member with a few questions
« Last post by Bikemad on February 23, 2025, 02:10:46 PM »
Hi Waheed, it sounds like you're not having much luck at the moment.   ::)

There's a strong possibility that you may have melted some wires inside either the main control harness or the throttle cable wiring.

If the +5V feed on the controller harness was not present with everything plugged in, but it returned with just the throttle disconnected, the short will hopefully be confined to the throttle cable itself.

However, if the +5V feed is not present with with just the throttle disconnected, but it returns when the main harness is unplugged, there will be a short somewhere inside the main harness, but there may also be a short in the throttle cable as well.  :-\

You should be able to use a multimeter to check for continuity (or very low resistance) between all of the pin combinations (especially the +5V pins and Ground pins) on both the main harness and the throttle cable while they are both completely unplugged.

If either or both cables are shorted, it/they will need to be repaired or replaced.



I suspect the high current produced during the initial short caused by the LED failure will have overheated the Battery +, Lighting feed and the Battery - (Ground) wires causing the wire core to melt through the insulation on one of these wires and also melting through the insulation of one of the adjacent wires (probably the Battery - has melted into the +5V) which has caused your problem.

Hopefully it will just be the throttle cable that is damaged. Check out this post and this post for further information on checking the throttle.



Alan
 
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General Discussions / Re: New member with a few questions
« Last post by Bargo on February 23, 2025, 07:31:18 AM »
before I start dismounting the wheel and checking the board status, I think its better to connect myself to the com port and use the vector controller application to check if there is any good signs of life, if the PAS works I will just configure it with PAS then, throttle signal is mostly burned at some component.

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General Discussions / Re: New member with a few questions
« Last post by Bargo on February 22, 2025, 03:31:23 PM »
Hello Again,

I hope you are doing well.

I finally was going to complete my collective setup, but at the last mile I did something wrong, I connected a 36v led to my 48 + - which comes out from the throttle 5 pin cable, after a couple of second the +- battery was shorted due to led short. I disconnected everything and now I can read battery normal, I get 5v everywhere where it should be, but I don't see anything on the throttle signal except -0.02v giving that the 5v makes 5v short to ground, I think something is wrong with the board now, but I wanted to confirm if anyone have any better idea :)

All my best,

Waheed
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General Discussions / Re: DC Contactor Wire Connection:)
« Last post by Bikemad on February 16, 2025, 01:22:26 AM »
Hi andto the forum.

The only wiring diagram that I've seen for the EZ controllers does not show any numbering on any of the contactor terminals whatsoever:



As the two small terminals on the contactor are only used to energize the solenoid coil windings inside the contactor it should not matter which way around they are connected, unless the contactor is specifically marked "+" and "-" on those terminals, in which case the "Gray" wire would then connect to the "-" terminal and the KSI wire would go to the "+" terminal.

Hopefully the above will have cleared up any confusion.

Alan
 
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