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Electric Boat Conversions / Re: Brake by reversing
« Last post by Johnculley on May 18, 2025, 08:17:29 AM »
The 010 is a round handle, the 012 has a wider flat section at the top. I had lots of trouble connecting because I followed the instructional video for the 010 😩.
I’ll have to email GM again about the shuddering. It happens around 2100 rpm and 2600r (rotor speed on the app).
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Electric Boat Conversions / Re: Brake by reversing
« Last post by Pontus on May 18, 2025, 08:13:13 AM »
I think I have the TRC010, although not 100% sure. The connection was straight forward though, just plugging in the connectors.

I also experienced shuddering at higher revs. That was due to an firmware update changing the scale of controller setting but without the actual settings being changed accordingly. That was solved by an email to GM though.

Here's my blog post about installing the throttle.
On page Google translation available. 

https://grinde-19.se/blog/nytt-gasreglage
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General Discussions / Re: e-bike with a magic controller
« Last post by Raevin on May 17, 2025, 11:25:55 PM »
Thanks for the guidance . I looked up the motor and looks like a mini. The wheel will not rotate backward at all. I did find a broken wire (green) and spliced in a new piece but same condition. The user stated that the bike needed to be peddled to go which I assume may have been due to-the broken wire. I measured the resistance of the motor windings …each phase .4 ohms. I see high resistance between neg and each disconnected motor wire and a climbing high resistance from positive to each motor terminal.prob a capacitor charging.I will test the hall sensors next. Thx for the links to the hall sensor tests.
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General Discussions / New member with torque arm question
« Last post by BillysMagicBikeShanty on May 17, 2025, 08:35:44 PM »
Hi, posting this to become a confirmed member. My question is, besides hose clamps, are there any torque arms which secure directly into fork and frame fender bosses? Thanks!
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Electric Boat Conversions / Re: Brake by reversing
« Last post by Johnculley on May 17, 2025, 08:28:06 PM »
Hi Pontus. Which throttle are you using ? I have the TRC012 and was told by GM to connect all the cables. Several of them don’t fit as the plugs don’t match but the motor seems to work ok. (A bit of “shuddering” at certain revs but everything else seems ok.  I’ve only used the motor once and I’m sure there will be more things to deal with.). I have an EZKontrol controller. Just wondering if you have all cables connected. From memory it cruise, brake and alarm that aren’t connected.
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Magic Pie & Smart Pie Discussions / SmartPie Assist levels
« Last post by NR on May 16, 2025, 05:02:53 PM »
Hi
Finally after a few years (8-ish) got to setup pedelec because of crazy laws here, and it is working ok.
My wish is that the assist levels above level 2 actually doesnt seem much different from each other and it would be nice if the could have different speed settings like Bafang units have, is there anyway to program it ?
All my settings is done via bluetooth and a smartphone, but there seem to be no setting for assist level settings?
Thanx in advance for any answers  :)
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General Discussions / Re: e-bike with a magic controller
« Last post by Bikemad on May 15, 2025, 12:49:44 AM »
Hi andto the forum.

As you haven't mentioned which motor you are using I will assume that it is most likely a minimotor.

The only voltage you should see on the controller's motor wiring with the motor disconnected is the +5V feed to the Hall Sensors which can be measured between the Red and Black wires on the Hall Sensor connector.

I wouldn't recommend applying battery voltage to the Blue and Yellow Phase wires as the current will be very high and is likely to produce a big spark and could overheat the Phase windings if left connected for too long.

It is better to measure the resistance between each pair of Phase Wires in turn (Between Yellow & Green, Green & Blue and Blue & Yellow) to confirm that all of the three readings are very similar.
Alternatively, with the motor disconnected from the controller try touching together each Phase Wire Pair in turn while turning the wheel backwards. If the Phase windings are good, the wheel should be difficult to turn backwards manually while each of the three pairs of Phase Wires are touched together.

If the Phase Windings check out OK and are all the same, it may be a Hall Sensor problem.
Unfortunately, the minimotors will not run in sensorless mode because the motor needs to be turning so that the controller can detect the movement, but the internal freewheel mechanism (unidirectional clutch) prevents this from happening.
Take a look at this post and this video for information on testing the operation of the Hall Sensors.
With a minimotor, you will have to turn the wheel backwards while testing the Hall Sensors as the unidirectional clutch prevents the wheel from turning the motor in the forward direction.

If a minimotor has been overloaded for too long it can overheat, causing the insulation on the Hall Sensor wires to become damaged due to excessive heat build up in the motor windings:



When the insulation melts, it allows the inner copper wires to short circuit.

Alan
 
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General Discussions / e-bike with a magic controller
« Last post by Raevin on May 14, 2025, 08:33:20 PM »
I am working on a e-bike with a magic controller.. the throttle checks out .8v - 3.8v. Battery voltage confirmed at controller. No motor spin or stutter with or without hall effect disconnected.
If I pull the motor connections on the controller should I see voltage on any pins?
On the removed wires can I apply battery voltage to the blue and yellow to test hub function?
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Electric Boat Conversions / Re: Brake by reversing
« Last post by Pontus on May 12, 2025, 12:51:18 PM »
Yes I can confirm the above as well.

I replaced my VEC for an EZkontroll last year and, as said, docking has never been as easy as now.
It's actually a game changer to be able to go full throttle for 1/2 second in order to manoeuvre the boat rather then accelerating.
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Electric Boat Conversions / Re: Brake by reversing
« Last post by Polar on May 12, 2025, 12:15:37 PM »
Here's a short follow up on how this issue has developed.

My European GM reseller Vela Solutions replaced the VEC 500 for a EZ Kontrol - free of charge! They also supplied the, a bit ugly though quite sturdy, GM Throttle.

Initial test show no sign of last year's issue. There's no problem doing quick changes between forward and reverse, even when the motor is still coasting.

More testing is needed though, since I haven't tried to brake att higher speeds yet, like when sailing.



For future boatowners experiencing this: I can confirm the above. Coasting keeps the shaft spinning. Vec controllers won't allow reversing when the shaft is still spinning. It almost has to stop or stop totally.
I replaced my vec controller with an ezkontrol version.
Now I can brake by reversing at any speed (boat has a max of 11km/h). Docking has never been so simple when you come of a diesel. Very quick response in shifting forward-reverse and back

Tested over a longer period. Very happy with it.

I have a belt driven setup. I wondered if the belt would skip teeth when going from forward to reverse but it holds up.

Don't bother trying mechanical or e-lock braking. The extra operation takes too much time. Biting the bullet and switching to an ezkontrol has been my perfect sollution.
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