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Title: Best 24V charger -> which one is best?
Post by: Just on January 19, 2013, 08:47:28 PM
Hi All,

I'm seeking for a GOOD (probably BEST) charger for the 24 LiFePo4 battery.

The charger should include the following functions:
- able to measure an internal resistance of the cells
- has a balance function (able to balance up to 8 cells)
- automatically variable output current (in dependence of the cell's charging condition - good chargers start with high output current and end the charging with just 0.5A).
- 220V as an input voltage (nice-to-have, not must)

Your recommendations about additional important features are welcome!

Thank you!
Title: Re: Best 24V charger -> which one is best?
Post by: MAGICPIE3FOCUSPOWER on January 20, 2013, 09:56:54 AM
Hyperion.
Title: Re: Best 24V charger -> which one is best?
Post by: Just on January 20, 2013, 11:02:38 PM
Hyperion.
They don't have a charger, which is able to balance 8S or more cells simultaneously!
Title: Re: Best 24V charger -> which one is best?
Post by: Lollandster on January 22, 2013, 06:39:49 AM
http://www.hyperion-eu.com/products/product/HP-EOS1420iNET3 (http://www.hyperion-eu.com/products/product/HP-EOS1420iNET3)
It does 14s. You might need to connect it 4+4 since it is 2x7, but I'm sure you'll figure it out.
Title: Re: Best 24V charger -> which one is best?
Post by: MAGICPIE3FOCUSPOWER on January 22, 2013, 08:26:24 AM
Yup I had two Hyeriions connected together.
But sold them, to much hassle.
I like plug in and charge.
Title: Re: Best 24V charger -> which one is best?
Post by: Just on January 22, 2013, 12:11:55 PM
Waw, 200EUR! Too much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Best 24V charger -> which one is best?
Post by: Lollandster on January 22, 2013, 03:34:26 PM
When you ask for the BEST you should be prepared to pay for it.
You can try the iCharger 1010B+ (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__6609__iCharger_1010Bplus_300W_10s_Balance_Charger.html). It can do 10s on a single plug and costs about half as much.
Title: Re: Best 24V charger -> which one is best?
Post by: Just on January 22, 2013, 04:31:23 PM
yes, but why you think that Hyperion chargers better than iCharger one (at least twice according to the price)?

Title: Re: Best 24V charger -> which one is best?
Post by: Lollandster on January 22, 2013, 04:34:32 PM
I have no Idea what the best charger is. I wasn't the one who mentioned Hyperion.
I have been told that both chargers are very good, but I have no personal experience or opinions about any of them.
Title: Re: Best 24V charger -> which one is best?
Post by: MAGICPIE3FOCUSPOWER on January 22, 2013, 06:38:06 PM
I had power Ichargers from Hobbyking.
The blew up in no time! Just read the reviews and you will know.

Also Hyperion has great  support firmware and interface software with your pc.

But now I own the FMA Pl8 charger with 2KW psu>>> 40A charging ;D
O well after the e bike virus I stopped with RC stuff.... ;D
Title: Re: Best 24V charger -> which one is best?
Post by: Cornelius on January 23, 2013, 07:23:58 AM
I have the iCharger 1010b+, and it's working just fine; I use it to charge my 36V, 20A LiFePo battery... :)

Having a charger that can charge with 40A doesn't help you unless you have a battery that can handle that high charging rate; in other words; either a 40Ah battery, or a battery consisting of cells that can handle much more than 1C, which is rare with e-bike batteries... (Normal with cells used in rc-stuff though, but at the expence of long-life...)

Edit;
Either the Hyperion or the iCharger are not plug and play chargers for e-bike use; one have to make your own balance charge plugs etc...
Title: Re: Best 24V charger -> which one is best?
Post by: MAGICPIE3FOCUSPOWER on January 25, 2013, 08:08:02 PM
I am using Headway 15A cells and my Magic Pie 3 peaks are +/- 92A / 4KW (at starting up).

I am charging my Hyperions 4A lipo's with 25A ;D
Title: Re: Best 24V charger -> which one is best?
Post by: Cornelius on January 25, 2013, 08:19:12 PM
I am charging my Hyperions 4A lipo's with 25A ;D

Then I suspect you won't have them for long...
Title: Re: Best 24V charger -> which one is best?
Post by: MAGICPIE3FOCUSPOWER on January 25, 2013, 08:22:33 PM
Yup they didn't last long ;D
So waste of 220 USD ;D

O well it was just for testing my 1:8 buggy.
It went 120 km/h, it can faster.
But the wind makes the car flying, so no steering possible ;D
Title: Re: Best 24V charger -> which one is best?
Post by: Lollandster on January 25, 2013, 09:04:54 PM
How do you get to that speed? I once had a nitro car with 3 gears and I never got it up to 2nd. It was just too fast.
Title: Re: Best 24V charger -> which one is best?
Post by: MAGICPIE3FOCUSPOWER on January 25, 2013, 09:09:12 PM
Haha I am cheating:

Castle Creations 2650KV with Hyperion 45C 4A 6S lipo.
And ofcourse the right gears ratio ;D
Title: Re: Best 24V charger -> which one is best?
Post by: Lollandster on January 25, 2013, 09:32:21 PM
I've never tried a Lipo car, maybe the higher acceleration helps. Or maybe you are just a better driver than I was. I never had a radar gun though, so I can really tell what speeds I did, but it never geared to second (automatic transmission).
Title: Re: Best 24V charger -> which one is best?
Post by: MAGICPIE3FOCUSPOWER on January 25, 2013, 09:34:40 PM
Haha I was using Garmin Forerunner 201 GPS.
Nope it was just straight lane , so you don't have to be a good driver ;D

Yup a lot of torque, gas car can't beat that.