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General Category => General Discussions => Topic started by: kmleon77 on October 10, 2011, 11:55:34 AM

Title: MAGIC PIE / X5
Post by: kmleon77 on October 10, 2011, 11:55:34 AM

HI
considering we use the same battery and same controller which motor is the most powerfull :
the X5 Crystalyte Motor or the MP external controller
thanks
how many amps can accept a MP
and how many amps can accept a X5
thanks
fred

Title: Re: MAGIC PIE / X5
Post by: DirtyGinge on October 10, 2011, 03:53:17 PM

I believe that the X5 can take more volts than either the pie or the nine continent motors, and overall is probably more powerful based on controller, however is also a lot more expensive.....

Title: Re: MAGIC PIE / X5
Post by: kmleon77 on October 10, 2011, 04:49:35 PM

HI
I just want to ride with a 48V battery
but I want to use a more powerfull controller
so how many amps max the Magic Pie can eat?
thanks
fred ;D

Title: Re: MAGIC PIE / X5
Post by: e-lmer on October 10, 2011, 05:05:01 PM

The X5 fan go up to 2kW (96V?)

The X5 is also 20 pounds (8.1kg) and has higher
rolling resistance.

Title: Re: MAGIC PIE / X5
Post by: kmleon77 on October 10, 2011, 07:15:50 PM

and what about the MP?
how many watts
how many ampss
thanks
fred

Title: Re: MAGIC PIE / X5
Post by: DirtyGinge on October 10, 2011, 07:48:05 PM

This morning I ran nearly constant 800 watts with peaks of up to 2.5KW, for over an hour due to a strong westerly wind...

My own experience with the pie has been rock solid ( on a different controller, but the gm one was ok...but never used much regen), approaching 5000 miles now, 1 bearing changeout has been about it for the wheel itself, and it has seen some rough times

I know the crystalyte in a lot of ways will outperform the Pie.....bit like comparing a ferrari and ford cosworth, the most expensive should perform the best, if you get what I mean

Title: Re: MAGIC PIE / X5
Post by: MonkeyMagic on October 11, 2011, 02:25:50 AM

I really want someone to fully utilise a Kelly controller with some serious hardware connecting to a MP

Check this out (http://Kellycontroller.com/KEBhelp.php) with the features, and many of the controllers you can add a CAN bus to monitor everything too.

I think I'm going to have to be the guinnea pig :D Just hope I don't roast any pies in the process hehe

Title: Re: MAGIC PIE / X5
Post by: DirtyGinge on October 11, 2011, 05:47:38 AM

monkey, I would be more than happy to try the Kelly controller you are going to donate to me :)

Title: Re: MAGIC PIE / X5
Post by: MonkeyMagic on October 11, 2011, 08:27:23 AM

I'll let you know :) lol christmas is coming haha

Hey but seriously, look at the throttle power control with take off, and end throttle you could limit the max and continous amps to a certain point. There is a speed boost feature and the maximum output functions are for 1 minute. You can even get a CAN bus for them but I cant seem to find much detail on what info is provided on the BUS

I would expect you would need 2 wheels, 1 to find out the sheer limits and the other to replace it :D

In my search, I did find a picture of what they know as a 'CAN BUS' in New Delhi haha
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_f4gawE6CqVw/SkWvqeLIYHI/AAAAAAAADis/1POzXTyMmxs/school%20bus%20in%20india%20-%20funny%20shocking%20and%20amazing.jpg)