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General Category => General Discussions => Topic started by: al on September 08, 2007, 08:52:47 PM
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have just been sent a personal message by myelectricbike on goldenmotor.com.
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If you live in the US then Raul is the problem. Philip was paying Raul a reasonable commission to fill online orders but Raul wants the whole enchilada and is bottlenecking and screwing up orders placed online which Philip has to resolve from China through Raul.
If you are Hispanic and live in California you can drive up to Oakland to pick up a kit directly from Raul for the same price as online so that he gets the whole profit instead of a commission.
For this reason I only sell overseas.
BTW - how about replacing the word "sh!t" in the message you just posted with a less offensive word like "kiddidle" or "horsefeathers," since we have a lot of under age kids visiting this forum.
I replyed to the topic (should he stay or should he go) last night. my listing disapeared of the board maybe for the reason I used a four letter word I just said when you are ordering stuff from phil the pill he replys like sh!t of a chrome shovel! if I had said horsefeathers of a chrome shovel you would not have got the point. Anyway the hero sent this email to me this morning so is he saying I have to be an hispanic to get any answer or service from this crew.
thats a toughie being a white anglo saxon protestant from N.Ireland.
I don't mind asking the forum for views etc but when you get sad puppys coming back with I quote "did you read the installation manual" dooah I never thought of that! give me a break. Anyway read quick I have a feeling this will disapear soon.
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The conflict between N and S Ireland has been resolved so there is no need to provide a heads up to anyone from N Ireland who might want to take a trip to S Ireland to shop for goods. On the other hand the US and Mexico are still wrestling with the question of illegal aliens crossing the border. Consequently a heads up on Raul's ethnicity might help you to avoid a confrontation when you are in that neighborhood. However, it sounds like that is what you are looking for so have at it and help yourself.
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your the one who who first mentioned the phrase (hispanic) what if I wasnt hispanic in Calafornia and wanted a kit could I still get one and pleaseee
dont even go there on the Irish politics thing.
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You can purchase a kit online but if you live in the US then your kit will be sent to you by Raul at Philip's direction. Hence if you ride up to Oakland and buy one directly from Raul you can avoid going through Philip altogether, even though Raul and not Philip is the problem. Also there appears to be a dealer further North of Raul that someone posted here a few days ago but they most likely get there kits directly through Raul. I do not know about Dray since he has been banned from this site. I'll look for it and if I find will post it here.
In the meantime, how about changing the words you have posted as I have asked and I would suggest also changing the title of the topic to keep Philip from being rightfully upset.
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It took less than 5 days for me to get my kit from the time I placed the order to the time I recieved it. As a matter of fact I recieved the kit before I got the shipping notice from FedEX Ground.(I live about 3.5 hrs from Oakland) ;D :D :)
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I would hope things to improve following a heftier commission for Raul and sales tax being included in the new price.
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That might be true, but the quality might be also improving. That would explain the diference in the kit I recieved. I was thinking of making a decal like MEB did to advertise and spread the word.(and might make a couple of bucks) :)
al, I hope the next batch you get will better than the last, sometimes it takes some time to get BUGS
out of the production line. As a fellow WASP and living in California, I have learned to adapt. It is true that I am now a minority in my home state but this does not bother me as much as someone trying to play the race card against me saying I hate them because of their skin color or other silly excuses. VIVA California and pass me the salsa & tortilla chips please. ;D
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I've probably had 4 people ask me how much an ebike kit would cost over that past six months and no email inquiries whatsoever from anyone who has seen the email address on the decal on the hub. I live in an area where there is bus service with stops in walking distance of most homes so that a motorized bike is not really needed. Even the local university and large Veterans hospital complex where I live have free bus and other transportation services of their own. Only outlying suburbs have no bus service since they have to vote to have services (and pay higher taxes) first. In your area and in the area where OneEye lives I'm guessing that there is no bus service to the nearest shopping area or store.
I likewise live in an area with a very large Hispanic and Catholic population with whom I share space with. Not only that but my favorite architectural scheme is Spanish architecture (love those tile roofs) and my new girlfriend is both Hispanic and Catholic and her parents do not understand a word of English ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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How true, Public transportation is very limited and service is not stellar, but it sure beats walking. I the small suburb I live in, the bus makes only 3 trips to Fresno a day (moring, noon and 4pm) so if you want to go at any other time you have limited options. (walk, pedal, hitch, or drive yourself) I am sure this can be echoed by fellow members here on the board who like in a semi rerual communities around the country and the world. ;D
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You have just been sent a personal message by myelectricbike on goldenmotor.com.
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...also it might help if you were also Catholic. You might also want to leave your chrome shove loaded up with kiddidles in the car.
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...or a resident of California, Mexico, Florida, New York City, The Vatican, Northern Irland, the UK, Spain, France or Brazil. Your order might be more difficult to fill, however, if you are a member of Al-Qaeda and are personal friends with Osama bin Laden or live in Iran, North Korea or Cuba.
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Philip is very poor at responding to emails; I emailed him numerous times before placing an order and got a response once. After placing my order he got back to me right away. Once PayPal went through, he passed the order info along to Raul, who shipped it right away.
I don't think Philip has an attitude that keeps him from responding; my guess is that he's just busy and responds when money he thinks it matters (when he's got a paying customer.) I've chatted with Raul by email a couple times, and he seems a pretty decent guy. If you have questions about a particular product, you might have better luck going directly to Raul instead of Philip.
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Dave, That is why I sugested A CRM (Customer Retention Management) software program to be installed. It would allow us to place orders, track them and direct our request for help to the right person automatically. (Thats my business Management Information System or MIS training coming out. My consulting fee is usually $100/hr 5hr. min) Phil, I will take it out in trade. LOL
The plain truth is no body can manage everything without some kind of help, mechanical(computer) or human. It looks to me ol' Phil is overwhelmed and understaffed. So all I can say is persistance and patience will pay off . ;D
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I'm waiting for the big announcement of the opening of the new customer service center and waiting for them to put up a new web site with all of the bells and whistles,,, no wait a minute, I take that back, I'd rather to continue to have the low prices... :D
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It has been proven, prices actually do not increase, but rather reamin the same afer the new software is adopted. the savings actually keeps the prices stable over a longer time frame vs the old system. :D
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so to sum it up, I should change my religion,move to L.A ,look for a guy called raul and don't buy a rear wheel kit .....cool.
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al, actually raul is in Oakland,CA (northern california) , your religion is fine, and the rear wheel kit depends on the spacing of the dropouts, and when in doubt about spacing, look for another alternative such as a front wheel. I personally wanted to put a rear wheel hub motor on my bike, but I changed my mind because of all the problems you guys reported. So, I have to say thanks to you and others on this forum for not getting myself in over my head and being disapointed on the outcome. :)
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From what I have heard, those who want the new state of Jefferson think that San Fran, Oakland, and surrounding area is part of Suddern Calafonia. (http://goldenmotor.com/SMF/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Very Funny, It would not affect me since I live in the middle. I guess If CA splits down the middle I could Live in the south and work in the north or vice versa. LOL :D :D ;D
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What will they call the two states if and earthquake splits California in half??? East California and West California? Or has the government picked other names?
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Or like Robin Williams (or was it Steve Martin?) used to joke, California would fall into the ocean, and all the beach bums would surf to Colorado.
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Na, But the central valley would be ocean front property and a loss in food production to cause a small famine in the U.S. since we grow most of the fruits, nuts and veggies. Bon appitite!!
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In the event of global warming how high would the ocean have to rise to flood the central valley?
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The Delta Region is the most at risk, Around where OneEye lives(stockton). I am farther south about 110 miles, so the impact would not be as great. But still, global warming could have an impact. ;D
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Water World ;D
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Yup, the delta is endangered as it is. Much of the farming area in the delta has the same elevation problems as New Orleans: they are up to 20' below average sea level. The predictions say if there is a catastrophic levee failure, the amount of water that will flood into one of the "islands" in the delta will draw so much water so fast that salt water from the SF Bay will intrude most of the delta, killing fish, vegetation &c. The new "lake" in the delta would be too deep for even aquatic vegetation to grow, so would be a dead spot permanently.
There are communities on the west side of Stockton (just about anything west of I-5) that are within 5 feet of sea level. I live at about +20 or so.
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YA, all the area is protected by levees including Tracy. Most of it is farm land and small towns like Walnut Grove. A ground squirrel dug a little too far and caused a whole island to flood.(an "island" is a area surrounded by levees, just think of a giant bowl) It took almost 4 months to repair the damages and drain the "island". That is why an earthquake in the bay area if 7.0+ could cause some of these levees to collapse.
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Water World ;D
Wasn't that broadcast on some network last night? I recognized it flipping through channels; what a waste of poor acting.
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Not only a poor film but a poor waste of film!! :P
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Lake Califon-i-a! ;D All you need do is replace the Golden Gate Bridge with a Golden Dam. ;D 8)
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LOL, MEB!! LOL
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Think of the watt hours! Tens, maybe hundreds of wattshours that could be generated at low tide! Say goodbye to those costly nuclear power plants, forever! Get rid of those unsightly and noisy windmills! Plus, think of the recreational benefits, swimming, boating, water skiing, diving, and fishling! Plus, fish are good to eat and a dietary requirement on Friday for many who live in Californ-i-a and parts of Texas. With fresh water fish even old foggies in danger of eating too much salt could include fish in their diet. Think of it, all of these benefits, the result of one little dam!
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Think of it, all of these benefits, the result of one little dam!
Little Dam? That dam would have to be twice the size of the Hoover Dam.
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Not compared to Three Gorges Dam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Gorges_Dam) which is five times the size of Hoover Dam. ;D
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That dam in China is not a "little" thing by any standards.
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Anyway, I'm curious what the result might be if such a dam were created although no such dam will ever be. I'm curious as to how high (or deep) and how full the resulting reservoir would be and how much of the central valley it would put under water and how much electricity the inflow could generate once the reservoir was filled. :D
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Fun thought, but it would actually be a very poor choice for a dam location. The area of water inundated compared to the height/elevation difference available for power generation would be miniscule. If you were trying to create a massive water storage area you would place a dam across the golden gate. Of course, the surface area evaporating by the time you get much of the central valley full would probably give horrendous losses.
A better option for water storage would be a proposal advocated by a venture capital firm: take one of the "islands" of the delta, fill it with water during "wet" years with "too much" water, and then draw from it in "dry" years for irrigation and municipal water. It is a similar concept to a few pump-to-groundwater / percolate-to-groundwater schemes that are also being proposed--use wet years to recharge the aquifer, and draw from it during dry years.
Maybe the golden gate would be a good place for tidal turbines on the floor of the bay.
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There definitely seems to be some potential energy there going to waste but most likely wind generator farms in the middle of Nevada would be more cost effective. Like tide, the wind in some locations on Earth, always blows.
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The Bay Area is one of those areas with a lot of wind. The temperature differential between the Central Valley and the San Francisco Bay, combined with the topography creates a near constant wind over portions of the Delta. The wind farm at the Altamont Pass (I-205 between Tracy and Livermore) is currently the largest wind farm in the US. There is also a large wind farm between Rio Vista and Suisun. My wife complained constantly about the wind when we lived at Travis AFB, near Fairfield.
It's not perfect, though. The wind current breaks down when a high-pressure system parks itself over the central valley. Unfortunately this is also the time when temperatures in the Valley climb above 100 deg F, and the electrical demand spikes.
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...and the a/c repairman can count on overtime, doubletime and highway robbery time to fix those poor a/c units that can't take the heat. ;D
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This problem was easiest to minimize by duplicating and triplicating almost everything I own. I can't think of anything that is essential that I do not have two or three waiting to be used as replacements or as substitutes. This applies to all but rapidly changing computer hardware and software components for which I do not stock spares but rather maintain entirely separate systems with interchangeable parts.
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This "throw away society" with all that is good and bad is actually based in economics to keep the money turning in the economy. That is why toasters and small electrics no not last as long as they use to.(Just throw it away any buy a new one) This philosophy is now being adopted by the auto makers.(build a cheap car that is affordable then, when it needs repair, it is cheaper to just buy a new one) :D
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Humm... support for the economic concept that money is just like blood and the economic system should be modeled to accomodate it. Yes, Hemo-economics! ;D