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I've taken out the screws on the hub.  How does the cover etc. come off the controller side?
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Magic Pie & Smart Pie Discussions / Re: 52v MagicPie 5 lacking power above 12mph
« Last post by Bikemad on December 11, 2023, 09:58:23 PM »
Hi andto the forum.

If you raise the wheel off the ground and the maximum unloaded wheel rpm is still much slower than it should be, then it is most likely caused by a low throttle signal voltage.

The controller requires a throttle signal voltage of at least 3.25V to produce maximum motor rpm, but this voltage can be much lower if the controller's +5V regulated supply has been overloaded or has simply become weak over time.

If you are able to measure the voltage on the throttle signal circuit (with everything connected) this would help to confirm the suspected cause of the problem.

You should be able to measure the +5V output with a voltmeter connected between battery negative and pin 1 on one of the brake connectors:



If you wrap some insulation tape (or a small section of wire insulation) around the tip of the red meter probe, it should prevent you from accidentally shorting the pins inside the brake switch connector:



Check out this post for further information.

If the +5V supply is below 3.5~4V then the throttle will probably be unable to output the required signal voltage to produce the expected maximum rpm.Pi-80I

Alan
 




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General Discussions / Re: EZTune default password is not 0 (solved)
« Last post by Curve514 on December 10, 2023, 09:13:39 PM »
I got a reply from GD this morning.

The password is actually de last 11 digits from the serial number of the controller! The documentation included (a simple folded card) did not address this. They sent me a newer PDF version of the same flyer with the info on it.

We are still a long shot from a decent doc package...

Cheers,
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Magic Pie & Smart Pie Discussions / 52v MagicPie 5 lacking power above 12mph
« Last post by TheDCshove on December 10, 2023, 07:23:09 PM »
Hi All,

I've got a MagicPie5 laced up in 29" mountain bike wheel with a 52v lithium battery. Have had a ton of fun with this setup. It's been reliable and consistent in it's power delivery for 3 years. Recently, it seems like the controller won't put power down above a certain speed.

I usually see about 700-1100watts at full throttle above 12mph, tapering off to 650 as the bike climbs up to 27mph.
Recently, the system has been very cleanly and smoothly tapering off and holding 12mph at about 350 watts with throttle at full position. Throttle response is clean and smooth, no jitters. Any percussive or other kind of troubleshooting manipulation of the throttle provides the same results..

Clean and smooth control of power delivery that tapers off as speed reaches 12mph as if the throttle signal is maxing out at roughly 50%. This will remain consistent for the entire ride. A reset of the controller by fully disconnecting the battery seemed to fix the issue for about 5 minutes at a time in the past.. more recently hasn't resolved the problem even temporarily so I could be mistaken and this can be taken with a grain of salt.


Battery and DC current:
Battery is in good health, 3 years old, 250 cycles.
52v - 14S4
BMS is 30A
Cells in 14s4 arrangement are capable of 40A continuous.
Solid 30A provided consistently while below 12mph.

I have replaced the main DC current wiring all the way from the BMS inside the battery chassis through to the last 1-foot of the MP5 wiring harness. Lots of power and torque available below 12mph. Nothing seems to be limiting available current for the controller. The voltage drop is minimal while the problem is happening and is in line with expected vdroop @ 350 watts load.

Just off of fully charged, resting will be ~58.0V and will drop to ~53V under full load 30A. The same battery and charge state above 12mph will only drop to ~55V and 350w load... so doesn't seem like a current limiting issue before the controller.


Throttle + Signal wiring:
Replaced throttle with a new hall sensor based unit.
Tested new throttle independently of the rest of the system and it puts out a throttle signal range of 0.86v to 4.05v without any issues. I wouldn't consider the new throttle as a potential cause as the issue predates the new throttle by about 6 months.
Replaced the throttle wiring (ground and signal) from the MP5 Control Harness' waterproof "throttle and lights" connector all the way to the throttle itself.


Other / MP5 configuration:
There are no accessories, horns, lights, displays, PAS sensors, etc.
It's just the battery, CycleAnalyst Shunt ( CA NO THROTTLE, wired directly to MP5), hall-based thumb throttle, and the MP5 controller.


Controller:
I've opened it up to inspect and there is no debris, no corrosion.. all clear in the hub. The hall sensor connector is secure and seated nicely. The stator windings are connected securely to the controller and I've made sure the spade connectors aren't loosely fitted. I didn't look very carefully at where the throttle signal comes into the controller at the time.


Any thoughts?
Thanks very much!!
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General Discussions / Re: EZTune default password is not 0
« Last post by Bikemad on December 09, 2023, 10:36:20 PM »
Hi andto the forum.

I don't know if you're the first to use one of the EZKontrol series, but you appear to be the first person on the forum to post about it.  ;)

Hopefully your supplying dealer will be able to help you with the default password as I have no experience with EZkontrol controllers or the EZ-Tune/EZkontrol Apps.

Alan
 
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General Discussions / EZTune default password is not 0
« Last post by Curve514 on December 09, 2023, 06:18:47 PM »
Hi,
We have a brand new EZKontrol C120/900 wired and ready.

EZTune app connects to the controller but we cannot login because the default password is unknown!

Would we be the first users of this line of controllers?
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General Discussions / Re: Intermittent response from Throttle
« Last post by Tbnrider on December 01, 2023, 07:23:00 PM »
Further to my problem with intermittent throttle response with a 902 motor and 10A controller, I ordered and received a new controller (ESC), a Magic V2 Universal Controller, which came with new wiring harnesses.  The new ESC looks exactly like the old one it replaces..

When I connected it into my e-bike in place of the original controller, nothing worked.  I have 3 other bikes with the same motor and control system, and that are working well. So I started to try substituting different combinations of ESC, 902 motor wheels, and wiring harnesses.  Everything works fine with other ESC's, wiring harnesses and 902 motor wheels. All units appear to be in good working condition, EXCEPT the new controller. After trying many permutations of the main modular components of two e-bike systems., only one of the modules in every  combination failed to operate, the new ESC.

So am I missing something?  Could it be that the new ESC requires reprogramming?  is there anything else I could do to test the new ESC try before returning it for replacement to the company?

Roy
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General Discussions / Re: ... 52 volt battery usage ..
« Last post by diverdon on November 30, 2023, 10:52:31 PM »


     Here's what I like as an average ride ..nice and slow 7mph average ..2 1/2 hours with a few stretch breaks ..
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General Discussions / Re: ... 52 volt battery usage ..
« Last post by diverdon on November 30, 2023, 10:19:12 PM »

    Here's the subject bicycle at the park I like to ride thru .. 2 1/2 hours of mostly Quiet ..
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General Discussions / Re: ... 52 volt battery usage ..
« Last post by diverdon on November 30, 2023, 10:15:16 PM »

     Just in case you're interested ..Here's the battery I bought ... First one they sent went bad in just over 1 month .. The picture of the voltmeter above is from when it happened .. It was the same as the first battery I bought for this bike ..except they advertise 2 more amp hours for a little bump in $$ so this is supposto be a 15 amp hour battery they say they do it with 3500 miliamp batterys instead of 3000 milliamp ones ..

              https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09MK949YZ?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1
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