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User Guides/Catalog / Re: light and horn
« Last post by Bikemad on January 11, 2024, 09:13:16 PM »
Mark, the holes in the frame bracket are not threaded, they are just clearance holes for the M6 bolts that pass through them and then thread into the caliper mounting piece:



Please note that you only need to fabricate the section shown in blue (not the entire bracket) and it may have to be shaped differently to fit your particular frame:



Here's an example of a different bracket shape:



The most important thing to get right is the distance between the two 6mm mounting holes and the distance of each of these holes relative to the centre of your axle.
Please note that the centre of your 14mm diameter axle is likely to be at least 2mm lower than the one shown in the dropout above for a standard 10mm axle (unless you have already filed 2mm into the dropouts)

Alan
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User Guides/Catalog / Re: light and horn
« Last post by ElectricStreet on January 11, 2024, 03:17:54 AM »
This is really good.  If I can make this bracket.  I assume the holes are to be threaded, of course and probably 0.125" thick and like brazen in place. I'm seeing an opportunity for something new and creative with a washer or two for good luck.   Randy says brakes are over rated.  Ha Ha.

The light/horn needs a mount on the stem tube or fork. 

with gratitude. Mark. 
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User Guides/Catalog / Re: light and horn
« Last post by Bikemad on January 10, 2024, 08:40:52 PM »
1. The light/horn connector should connect to the four unterminated wires coming from the junction block on the main Control Harness:



One of my Magic Pie Harnesses was equipped with a three pin connector which was presumably meant to connect directly to a battery voltage headlamp/horn unit (which I don't have) with a matching three pin connector.
The Red Lighting feed wire is connected to one of the outer pins, the Yellow Horn feed wire is connected to the middle pin and the two Black and Blue Ground wires are both connected to the remaining outer pin.

2. If your existing frame does not have mountings for a disc brake caliper you may be able to use a bolt on adapter kit to mount the caliper to your frame.
I have not tried any of these kits and I'm not sure how suitable they would be for your particular frame or for use with a 14mm diameter wheel axle.
If you have a steel frame (or forks) and want to try and fabricate some steel mounts to weld/braze onto your frame/forks, then these drawings may help:





3. I would use either electrical insulation tape or nylon zip ties to secure the brake cable (or hydraulic pipe) to the frame.

Alan
 
 
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User Guides/Catalog / light and horn
« Last post by ElectricStreet on January 10, 2024, 03:31:42 AM »
I have a few questions about e-bike conversion kit systems. 

1.  The light button is on the thumb throttle and the horn button is on the multi-button control.  One is on the right and the other on the left side of the handlebar.  I received the light/horn as it came with a single connector.  How does one connect this to the two button switches? 
2.  The rear disc brake caliper must mount to the bike rear drop-out some how.  What is the most common procedure to accomplish this task?  Take it to a welder?
3.  To run the rear brake cable,  what must you do?  Are there  straps or guide posts for this purpose?   

I've been scratching my head till my hair falls out.
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General Discussions / Re: Eggrider Question
« Last post by Bikemad on January 07, 2024, 04:49:38 PM »
Hi Chuy andto the forum.

I don't have any experience with the EggRider display but I would expect the speed and odometer readings to both be effected equally by the wheel size/circumference settings.
As your mileage is reading too low, I suggest that you try increasing the wheel size/circumference until the speed and odometer readings matches the GPS speed and distance figures.

To measure your tyre's actual circumference do the following;
Make a chalk line on the ground and place your front wheel with the valve stem at the bottom of the wheel directly above the chalk line.
Roll the bike forward in a straight line one complete wheel revolution until the valve stem is again at the bottom of the wheel.

Make another chalk line directly below the valve and then measure the distance between the two chalk lines in mm.
(if you don't have a metric tape measure you can convert inches to mm by multiplying them by 25.4.)
Make sure that you measure the same wheel that the speed sensor is attached to.  ;)

If entering the correct circumference does not cure the problem (i.e. the speed reads correctly compared to the GPS figures but the odometer does not) then you would need to enter the required offset value into the "ODO Offset" field to correct the odometer readings (make sure you also click the "Write" button to save it).

Example: If a 10 mile trip shows only 9.2 miles on the odometer, try entering an ODO offset value of 1.087 (10/9.2) and see if it sorts the odometer readings.
If this offset makes the odometer reading even lower, try entering a value of 0.92 instead (9.2/10).

Please let us know how you get on.

Alan
 
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General Discussions / Eggrider Question
« Last post by Chuy on January 06, 2024, 04:08:15 AM »
Howdy, new member here. I bought an Eggrider V2 from Goldenmotor and it has been great overall. My one issue is correcting the odometer reading so it displays correctly without having to adjust it using the Odo Offset in advance settings. The manual states updating the wheel size setting corrects the speed. I don't see what setting corrects the odometer. It shows less miles than I am actually covering, per two gps apps on my phone.
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General Discussions / Re: New member with dual motor setup
« Last post by Bikemad on December 28, 2023, 02:37:59 PM »
Hi Renaud andto the forum.

As you are using BAC0281 controllers, you will need to use the earlier PD_282 Programming software, and with this software, the programming is usually carried out with the battery disconnected (or turned OFF on the battery switch if applicable).

Please read the following installation instructions, especially if you are experiencing problem reopening the software after saving changes:


Click image to view full size.

On some controllers, the gate connection was internally bridged, which means the controller will remain active while the battery power is turned ON.
I suggest switching the throttle signal wires to enable/disable the motors.
The following diagram should also work for the external BAC0281 controllers:



The 12K resistors were required for some Magic Pies to prevent a throttle error when the throttle signal wire was open circuit, but I'm not sure if the BAC0281 controllers will suffer from the same problem.

If you are running both controller from a single throttle, make sure that the +5V supply from both controllers are not joined together, as this can sometimes cause problems.

As one of your controllers works OK and the other does not, it could be incorrect settings in the controller or possible different wiring or even a faulty controller.

Make sure the non-working controller is programmed the same as the working one and then swap the controller wiring harness if necessary.
If the non-working controller doesn't work with the working program parameters and wiring harness, then the controller is probably faulty. :(

Alan
 
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General Discussions / New member with dual motor setup
« Last post by Rlarcier on December 27, 2023, 06:41:43 PM »
Hi
I'm working on a twin motor bike my father started 10 years ago . My father passed away 2 years ago and I would like to finish that project
He was using 2 controllers BAC0281 with 2 GM 250W - I'm looking after the software that I can use to review the setup of the controller
Which software do I use best - Magic Pi3 , Edge ,4,5 ?
When using the software and connecting the controller with the USB cable , do I need to connect any other power source (B-B+ or H+H-) on controller or the controller will get his power from the USB cable ?

I have also installed 2 switches so I can drive either with front or rear or both engines
I'm using contact G (Gate) on the controller to switch off each engine - is that correct - it doesn't seems to stop the engine ?

I managed to have front engine working when connected to controller 1 but then rear engine on controller 2 doesn't work. When I connect rear engine to controller 1 then it works but front engine on controller 2 will not work.
So I'm sure both engines & cabling are fine but suspect maybe a controller 2 config conflict.
The brake switch works fine and open or shut contact between B, Z oV

Any suggestions ?

Tx Renaud
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General Discussions / Merry Christmas everyone
« Last post by Bikemad on December 24, 2023, 07:26:26 PM »
I don't know where this year has gone, but we're nearly at the end of it already.



I hope none of you are on Santa's "Naughty" list this year and that you all have a wonderful Christmas time.



Alan
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
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Hi Jon,

I'm not aware of any updates for the Vector controllers that would actually reduce the motor noise.

The VEC controllers are Sine Wave controller and they greatly reduce the motor noise under load compared to the HPC square wave controllers.
I suspect that the noise you are hearing is the typical motor noise which occurs when you manually spin the motor (without using power from the controller), so it is unlikely that you will be able to reduce it.

It might be different if the noise was only evident while the motor was under load, but if the motor is still producing the noise while it slows down after quickly releasing the throttle, then the controller is unlikely to be causing it.

Alan
 
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