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Offline kmleon77

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MAGIC PIE / X5
« on: October 10, 2011, 11:55:34 AM »
HI
considering we use the same battery and same controller which motor is the most powerfull :
the X5 Crystalyte Motor or the MP external controller
thanks
how many amps can accept a MP
and how many amps can accept a X5
thanks
fred
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Re: MAGIC PIE / X5
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2011, 03:53:17 PM »
I believe that the X5 can take more volts than either the pie or the nine continent motors, and overall is probably more powerful based on controller, however is also a lot more expensive.....
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Re: MAGIC PIE / X5
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2011, 04:49:35 PM »
HI
I just want to ride with a 48V battery
but I want to use a more powerfull controller
so how many amps max the Magic Pie can eat?
thanks
fred ;D
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Re: MAGIC PIE / X5
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2011, 05:05:01 PM »
The X5 fan go up to 2kW (96V?)

The X5 is also 20 pounds (8.1kg) and has higher
rolling resistance.

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Re: MAGIC PIE / X5
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2011, 07:15:50 PM »
and what about the MP?
how many watts
how many ampss
thanks
fred
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Re: MAGIC PIE / X5
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2011, 07:48:05 PM »
This morning I ran nearly constant 800 watts with peaks of up to 2.5KW, for over an hour due to a strong westerly wind...

My own experience with the pie has been rock solid ( on a different controller, but the gm one was ok...but never used much regen), approaching 5000 miles now, 1 bearing changeout has been about it for the wheel itself, and it has seen some rough times

I know the crystalyte in a lot of ways will outperform the Pie.....bit like comparing a ferrari and ford cosworth, the most expensive should perform the best, if you get what I mean
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Offline MonkeyMagic

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Re: MAGIC PIE / X5
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2011, 02:25:50 AM »
I really want someone to fully utilise a Kelly controller with some serious hardware connecting to a MP

Check this out with the features, and many of the controllers you can add a CAN bus to monitor everything too.

I think I'm going to have to be the guinnea pig :D Just hope I don't roast any pies in the process hehe
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Re: MAGIC PIE / X5
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2011, 05:47:38 AM »
monkey, I would be more than happy to try the Kelly controller you are going to donate to me :)
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Re: MAGIC PIE / X5
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2011, 08:27:23 AM »
I'll let you know :) lol christmas is coming haha

Hey but seriously, look at the throttle power control with take off, and end throttle you could limit the max and continous amps to a certain point. There is a speed boost feature and the maximum output functions are for 1 minute. You can even get a CAN bus for them but I cant seem to find much detail on what info is provided on the BUS

I would expect you would need 2 wheels, 1 to find out the sheer limits and the other to replace it :D

In my search, I did find a picture of what they know as a 'CAN BUS' in New Delhi haha
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