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Magic Pie & Smart Pie Discussions / Re: MP EDGE: bearing sizes?
« Last post by Bikemad on Today at 11:23:48 AM »
If you have the standard (Non-cassette) version of the Edge, I'm pretty sure that it uses the same bearing as the MPIII, 4 & 5:



However, if yours is the cassette version, the large bearing should still be the same (6917) but the single 6302 bearing has been replaced by two smaller bearings within the free hub as shown below:



I suggest that you try searching eBay for a 6917-2RS bearing and see what you can find.

Alan
 
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Magic Pie & Smart Pie Discussions / MP EDGE: bearing sizes?
« Last post by Thingamajig on Yesterday at 02:21:35 PM »
So my MP: Edge has developed a odd sound when running. Sorta like a loose bearing sound.

I disassembled the hub, and noticed the small bearing was alright, smooth motion, no noise or gritty feeling in it's movement.

The large one however had a bit of noise to it, and was a bit gritty feeling in it's motion -- due replacing it seems.

However, my idiot ass didn't write down the names of the bearing sizes, and from what i've found online replacements are costly (like, >$100 costly) which is just a bit crazy to me.


In the meantime I re-greased the noisy bearing in the hopes to get continued use from it for a few months. I do need to source a replacement though so if anyone can tell me what size this bearing is and/or a source with a reasonable price i'd really appreciate it.

Thanks
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General Discussions / Re: EZ Kontrol Single Axis Throttle configuration
« Last post by Bikemad on April 27, 2024, 12:03:00 AM »
Hi andto the forum.

With the VEC500 controllers you have to set the Throttle mode selection setting to Hyperbola using the USB programming cable and software for the controller to work with a boat style throttle, but as I have no experience with the EZ-Kontrol controllers, I don't know what programming options are available from within the EZ-Tune Android App.

Apparently, "There are hundreds of programmable control parameters for you to play around and fine tune your drive system to satisfy your expectations!" However, if you can't find the required setting for a boat style throttle you may have to contact your supplying dealer and ask them.

Alan

 
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General Discussions / EZ Kontrol Single Axis Throttle configuration
« Last post by Bangelor on April 26, 2024, 10:50:56 AM »
Hi everyone,

I am trying to build a throttle for an electric boat motor. I want to use the following Hall Sensor for the throttle:

VISHAY
981HE0B4WA1F16

It provides a 0.5-4.5V analog signal.

Is there a way to configure the EZ Kontrol Controller (A48 500) in away so that 2.5-4.5V is forward and 2.5-0.5V is reverse?

If this is not possible, how can I make the controller change rotation direction when the throttle is pulled to reverse?

Thanks and have a nice weekend!

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Magic Pie & Smart Pie Discussions / Re: Magic Pie Edge: Controller issues
« Last post by Thingamajig on April 17, 2024, 12:07:28 PM »
Is it possible to repair? are there any schematics for these controllers about?

Unfortunately I have not seen any schematics for the internal circuits of this controller, and it is unlikely to be easy to repair because the two circuit boards are typically potted in a silicone gel type compound which makes it very difficult to dismantle the controller to allow any failed components to be replaced:





I see that the Magic Pie Edge controller is still in stock at Golden Motor Canada/North America.
I'm pretty sure that it is basically the same controller as the Smart Pie 5 and Magic Pie 5 but with slightly different firmware.

Alan

Ah thats a real shame. I actually found the potting quite easy to thwart and have full access to both the top and lower layer PCB.
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Magic Pie & Smart Pie Discussions / Re: Magic Pie Edge: Controller issues
« Last post by Bikemad on April 16, 2024, 11:23:09 PM »
Is it possible to repair? are there any schematics for these controllers about?

Unfortunately I have not seen any schematics for the internal circuits of this controller, and it is unlikely to be easy to repair because the two circuit boards are typically potted in a silicone gel type compound which makes it very difficult to dismantle the controller to allow any failed components to be replaced:





I see that the Magic Pie Edge controller is still in stock at Golden Motor Canada/North America.
I'm pretty sure that it is basically the same controller as the Smart Pie 5 and Magic Pie 5 but with slightly different firmware.

Alan
 
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Magic Pie & Smart Pie Discussions / Magic Pie Edge: Controller issues
« Last post by Thingamajig on April 14, 2024, 01:44:11 AM »
Hi all.

So I have an issue with my MP Edge - the throttle is stuck on.

After LOTS of diagnostics and prodding and poking with a multimeter, i've determined that the issue lies within the controller itself; as soon as I power up the hub/controller, measuring from the pins, there is 5v present on the Throttle Signal wire of the motor harness. (NOTE: not the harness from the screen to the Motor Harness, literally from the Motor Harness/controller itself!) See attached image.

I also edited this image somewhat, as I found my wiring harness to be different then what was in the original picture, which threw me for quite some time!

From my understanding, the only voltage on this wire should be what comes from the hall sensor itself. As this is not connected (as the Screen harness is unplugged), there should be no voltage on this line at all. So my guess is something is either shorting in the motor harness (wiring loom from controller to center part of bike) or, more likely, some component within the controller itself is faulty.

Now onto the point of my post:

I'm fortunate enough to have access to another controller, but it's a shame to really bin this one as these controllers are becoming increasingly rare and expensive.

Is it possible to repair? are there any schematics for these controllers about?
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Reviews / Magic Pie 5 ... Still no problems 4 years later ...
« Last post by diverdon on April 10, 2024, 05:30:14 PM »

    Had to do an update as I am so satified with this kit ... 4 years ..on my 3rd battery ..ride most every day 1 1/2 hours or 2 1/2 hours ..slow 8 mph .. I set the "cruise control" and adjust my petal effort with the 8 speed bike gears ..mostly stay in 2-4th gear .. This is perfect for exercise ..strong headwinds don't matter ..hills either .. The controller in the hub is a great idea .. I have never had any other one and the speed setting button rather than "Petal Assist" really seems to be more like riding a normal bike ...
     I made some mistakes on the Install early on and Golden Motors and Bikemad really helped ..He didn't give up when I couldn't figure it out ..

   I'm %100 Happy and would gladly recommend one of these to anyone ...
          Thanks Again for all of your help ... Don
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The controller in that video is a Kelly KLS-72100N controller that supports variable regen, but I seem to recall that the VEC500 controller does not support variable regen.

Regen on the VEC controller is either On or Off and should engage when the brake switch contacts are closed, and disengage when the contacts are open.

Alan
 
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A Youtuber (The Digital Mermaid) seams to have solved it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN1rcPOXi2w

(I used to have a sailboat myself, but had a rigging failure)
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