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General Category => General Discussions => Topic started by: kmleon77 on September 27, 2011, 09:23:16 PM
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I DIDN'T KNOW THE MAGIC PIE THREE WAS BORN
CAN YOU CONFIRM ?
http://e-bike-diffusion.com/index.php?module=produit&prd_id=345
THANKS
FRED
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We will officially launch MagicPie 3 in two weeks time. The new product is in production to have sufficient stock to meet demand upon release to market. Also we have to file patents before release. Sorry for keep you waiting.
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Thanks for the notice and reply !!!!!!
:D
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ok
and has the programming problem been resolved? when we wanted to get more amps suddenly we could get only 15A ?
that says : easy to change internal controller : is it a plug and play controller or is it a bit more complicated?
how many amps can give the controller?
is it a new controller?
beacause I love the MP bur the controller is not so good : I own 3 Magic Pies one internal controller and 2 external
and the 2 external has broken down each once !
and is the controller of the Magic Pie 3 available not internal but external?
thanks
fred
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We will officially launch MagicPie 3 in two weeks time. The new product is in production to have sufficient stock to meet demand upon release to market. Also we have to file patents before release. Sorry for keep you waiting.
Hey Yao, can you tell me if you can swap the stator assembly from the new model to suit the older (current) MP2?
Thanks
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Considering the pie can take around 5kw of power and more peak it is a shame they don't have a higher power option, 60 volts x 35 amp controller is around 2kw, with external controller I'M running 3kw!
It would be nice if there was a temp sensor for the controller and the motor, and I hope they offer pie III with external controller option with temp sensor.
Come on GM tell us all about this motor!
But it's looking good so far!
Mark
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ok
and has the programming problem been resolved? when we wanted to get more amps suddenly we could get only 15A ?
that says : easy to change internal controller : is it a plug and play controller or is it a bit more complicated?
how many amps can give the controller?
is it a new controller?
beacause I love the MP bur the controller is not so good : I own 3 Magic Pies one internal controller and 2 external
and the 2 external has broken down each once !
and is the controller of the Magic Pie 3 available not internal but external?
thanks
fred
All these issues from MP1 and MP2 have been addressed in MagicPie 3. That's why it took us about a year to complete development of MP3. It is totally new hub motor, new molds, new tooling. But we will keep producing MP2 as the cost of MP3 is higher.
(http://www.goldenmotor.com/e-Bike-DIY/mpgallery/images/MagicPie3G New Features.jpg)
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It does look cool!
now that the news is out, how about giving us more information on specs, dimensions, and basically telling us what is different apart from the obvious?
Mark
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I guess we are considered backwoods in Canada.
Releasing in other parts of the world and don't even have patents registered here yet..............not available for two more weeks!
I am not impressed Mr Golden Motor!!!!!!!!!!!
Hope you have one hell of a good introductory offer win our hearts.
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Yet another promised release date.
According to my conversation with GM and you Yao, all dealers were to have the opportunity to have these motors in stock for the release. Since there are no MP3 on the water headed my way for weeks yet (if they ship when promised) it seems either the release date you are stating is wrong or the dealers have been fooled into investing 1000's of dollars on a promise that will not be kept. By the time the dealers recieve the product the excitment will be gone and GM will have scooped up all the first round sales with the dealers waiting for their stock. Day by day it gets more difficult to remain loyal to GM.
Gary
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I wish I has said something sooner, I would have liked a wider rim with more spokes.
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TO be honest, I love my pie, now that it has been stripped, rewired, modified etc.......
I have installed about 6 kits to customers this year, none of which have been GM motors...without some decent warranty backup from china, I could never recommend it to anyone.....
Half the problem isnt the motor, its the support from china....a lot of people are losing a lot of money having to cover this problem.....none of which are GM
Im not bitter though :)
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you are right
but for me the MP is a good motor
the controller is not so good that's the problem
and the lack or no communication when something has broken down
if communication when we have trouble and a good controller were in the place when needed than for me it would be perfect
may be with MP 3 we will have a good surprise?
fred
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question to GM
what about the controller : can we change it easily with a kind of plug and play way ?
and what kind of battery suits the MP3 the best ? voltage and amps?
can we trust you when you say every problems have been resolved ? no new problems?
can you ensure the new Magic Pie is really MAGIC ?
and what about replacement internal controller ? do you sell them and then we replace it by ourselves when it fails or do we have to give the motor back to GM ?
or may be that never fails?
thanks
fred
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question to GM
what about the controller : can we change it easily with a kind of plug and play way ?
and what kind of battery suits the MP3 the best ? voltage and amps?
can we trust you when you say every problems have been resolved ? no new problems?
can you ensure the new Magic Pie is really MAGIC ?
and what about replacement internal controller ? do you sell them and then we replace it by ourselves when it fails or do we have to give the motor back to GM ?
or may be that never fails?
thanks
fred
There is a multiple pin socket on internal for plug and connect to motor easily. Rider can replace the controller. All complained problems have been resolved and tested. So you can expect a significantly improved new generation of bike conversion kit. That is MagicPie 3.
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HI
thanks for your answers
but you didn't answer one of them : what kind of battery do you think suits the Magic Pie 3 the best
36V ? 48 V ? more
and how many amps please
so with what kind of battery the magie pie 3 will give us the best it can give ?
thanks
fred
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HI
thanks for your answers
but you didn't answer one of them : what kind of battery do you think suits the Magic Pie 3 the best
36V ? 48 V ? more
and how many amps please
so with what kind of battery the magie pie 3 will give us the best it can give ?
thanks
fred
Hi Fred,
This is really a personal preference. On 48 volts the pie II will go up to 24-25 mph max!
On 60 volts it will do 32 mph, however if you use GM controllers your battery should have less volts than that straight off the charger, as they support 60 volts max!
the controller between 40-50 amps is good, 60 volts is a really addictive!
The battery should be an A123, they should be capable of feeding the Pie, LiPo is fantastic, but it's too complicated to use without a bms, there is no suitable user friendly bms yet that is reliable and LiPo is dangerous if misused.
An A123 will cost you at least 550 Dollars before shipping for a 10ah pack!
If you want PM me and I'll give you the details of where you can get one!
Mark
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Does anyone want a "gingers lipo story / noob thread thingy" ????
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hi
A 123 is the best at the moment but it's hard to find a whole battery
so I would be interested but don't know how to PM you cos your mail is hidden
thanks to tell me how to practice
fred
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maybe contact cell_man: emissions-free_worldwide(at)hotmail.com
He does retail the Macs, and also genuine a123 batteries and packs, and does match cell resistances for a good balanced pack
Many of the endless-sphere guys have dealt with him so reputation is gained by history if that makes sense...he has been a great help to me
regards
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yeah cell-man is great!
I can certainly vouch for him!
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I would be interested but don't know how to PM you cos your mail is hidden
Fred, you don't need an email address to send a Personal Message, you simply click on the Personal Message icon below the member's avatar:
(http://www.arhservices.co.uk/GoldenMotor/PM-1.JPG)
and then compose your message:
(http://www.arhservices.co.uk/GoldenMotor/Message.JPG)
It's like posting on the forum, except it's private. ;)
Alan
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Magic pie 3 With REAL 48V 1000W: External CONTROLLER with 15 MOSFETS :o
I get 55km/h with this controller with a Magic pie 2 :o
and 20mp 48v battery pack I can't wait to try a Magic pie 3 with this set up 8)
REAL 48V 1000W: CONTROLLER $45 USD or $ 65 USD with Throttle
Specification:
Voltage: 48V
Power: 1000W
Size: 21.4*9.5*4.5cm
Net Weight: 0.68kg
Max. Contimous Current 30A
Max. Cut-off Current: 50A
Max. Cut-off Voltage: 35V
Max. Voltage: 72V
MOSFETS: 15 pcs (ST NEC)
48V 20AH LiFePO4 Battery Specification:
Battery Model 48V 20AH with BMS and 5 amp Fast Charger. ;D
C3 Continuous Discharge Current: 60A
Nominal Capacity (AH) 19.8Ah
Nominal Voltage (V) 51.2
Source Resistance (m?? ?50
Cell Combination 16-Series
18-Paralles
5AH Fast Charger For LiFePO4 Battery For 48V Battery Specification:
For 48V LiFePO4 Battery
Intelligent Charger
Super Powerful Charger, 5AH
Aluminium Case-good heat sinking
Super Cooling Fan
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Lol I love how you call a fan a 'radiator' Who :D
Where did you get these specs from?? Sneaky man
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Super powerful 5amp charger ? I nearly wet myself reading that one! ;D
The size of that bms in that big plastic box OMG!!!
PIng batteries would be much better than those duct tape Vpower batteries that so many people have problems with!
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HI
GM , which battery will suit MP3 the best , if using a 30A program (controller)
is a 48V10Ah enouch or do yoy suggest more amps
thanks
fred
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Golden Motor now use Larger cells in there 24v 36v & 48v LiFePO4 Battery Packs for Electric Bikes this
means reliability and it makes possible for BMS to manage and protect each cell individually.The new LiFePO4 Battery Packs are ratted at C3 Continuous Discharge Current: 30A = 48v 36A = 36v = 24v
I have found that the new Larger cell Battery Packs are much better than the older type with blue and orange 4amp round cells :o
In the old battery packs The BMS controlled groups of 3 or 4 4amp cells in parallel not individually :o
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Hi Who42,
Are you saying all the Lifepo4 packs GM has now have a 3C discharge rate? I did not know that, that is very interesting.
Gary
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HI
GM what date exactly it is going to be possible to buy a Magic Pie 3 on your website?
what is the official date?
thanks
fred
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HI
no answer?
may be you do not know yourself?
fred ;D
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HI
no answer?
may be you do not know yourself?
fred ;D
Looks like at least January 2012. Probably even longer :(
Gary