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General Category => Announcements from GoldenMotor => Topic started by: Bikemad on March 14, 2010, 03:48:19 PM

Title: Programmable Interface for BAC Cruise Controllers and Magic Pies
Post by: Bikemad on March 14, 2010, 03:48:19 PM

Yao,

I've only just noticed that interface leads are now available for programming the speed controllers:

(http://goldenmotor.com/e-Bike-DIY/CruiseControllerProgrammingInterface-PI200.jpg)

Do these work with all the Magic Pie and BAC cruise controllers, or just the newer ones?
If they're only suitable for newer controllers, from what date onwards are they compatible?

What program does it use to access the controller and what parameters can be changed?
ie. Maximum current, Maximum speed, level of regenerative braking, high and low voltage cut-off settings, amount of Pedelec assistance etc.

Any chance of some screenshots etc?

As much information as possible would be very useful, but I don't suppose it will work with my Magic Pie as my yellow lead is not connected to the speed controller. :(

Alan
 

Title: Re: Programmable Interface for BAC Cruise Controllers and Magic Pies
Post by: Eriknoort on March 14, 2010, 07:50:06 PM
Yao,

Can goldenmotor build such a simple interface for the HPC100B That would be fantatic.

Erik
Title: Re: Programmable Interface for BAC Cruise Controllers and Magic Pies
Post by: GoldenMotor on March 15, 2010, 01:42:38 AM
Ok, i'll try to find out more about it, i'm busy with another thing at the moment. Apparently, it's for the controllers after this was being put on the web. The older controllers don't have RAM I guess.
Title: Re: Programmable Interface for BAC Cruise Controllers and Magic Pies
Post by: PEDAL IN POWER OUT on March 16, 2010, 11:41:31 PM
YESSSSSSS....

When will the software be available?

Will it work with Magic Controllers before 2.0?

When will we get an IPhone app???????

On behalf of our friends in Europe, will top speed be an adjustable parameter?

I am holding my breath...........
Title: Re: Programmable Interface for BAC Cruise Controllers and Magic Pies
Post by: GoldenMotor on March 17, 2010, 10:42:58 AM
Since we have made changes to controller software, therefore only new version of MagicPie and External Cruise Controller are programmable.

(http://www.goldenmotor.com/e-Bike-DIY/CruiseControllerProgrammingInterface-PI200.jpg)

(http://www.goldenmotor.com/e-Bike-DIY/PI-200 GUI.jpg)
Title: Re: Programmable Interface for BAC Cruise Controllers and Magic Pies
Post by: LOLO on March 17, 2010, 12:33:47 PM
Yes..! thank you yao.. i'm gone my order doing...  ;)
Title: Re: Programmable Interface for BAC Cruise Controllers and Magic Pies
Post by: Bikemad on March 18, 2010, 01:42:24 AM
Since we have made changes to controller software, therefore only new version of MagicPie and External Cruise Controller are programmable.

Yao, the compatibility with Magic Pies is clear, but the reference to the External Cruise Controller is slightly ambiguous.
Can you clarify whether it's just the new External Cruise Controllers, or any of the External Cruise Controllers (old or new) which are programmable?

Thanks in advance,

Alan
 
Title: Re: Programmable Interface for BAC Cruise Controllers and Magic Pies
Post by: Electrobent on March 18, 2010, 02:31:32 AM
Maybe that's why my 48 Volts seems tame!

I want one of these!

Can you ride the bike with the computer plugged in and play with things on the fly or is it a change settings and reboot situation?
Title: Re: Programmable Interface for BAC Cruise Controllers and Magic Pies
Post by: Electrobent on March 19, 2010, 07:56:18 PM
One more question: does it come with the software?
Title: Re: Programmable Interface for BAC Cruise Controllers and Magic Pies
Post by: Electrobent on March 23, 2010, 12:51:17 AM
OK--I have been told by Mike at GM USA that the software DOES NOT ship with the cable.  He did try to email it to me but I could never make it run.  I know that I would not be happy if I spent 50 bucks on a USB cable that I could make for 5.  This product is useless until they figure out how to distribute the software.
Title: Re: Programmable Interface for BAC Cruise Controllers and Magic Pies
Post by: GM Brazil on March 23, 2010, 01:23:50 AM
But the cable is ONLY compatible with the upcoming versions of the controller and Magic Pie!!! It is not compatible with the actual ones!!
Title: Re: Programmable Interface for BAC Cruise Controllers and Magic Pies
Post by: Electrobent on March 23, 2010, 05:13:38 PM
Once again GM shows its ability to manufacture things and its utter inability to market them.

I was told that the cable would work with my external controller but they had no way to send me the software except for email or paying extra to have someone burn a disc.

This reminds me of Japan before Peter Drucker and W. Edwards Demming straightened them out in the 1960's.

Who is your customer?  What does your customer consider value?

Sell me a controller and then two weeks later tease me with a way to program it--this is just a sure fire way to piss off customers which seems to be the only thing that GM can do better than making hub motors.

--Eric



Title: Re: Programmable Interface for BAC Cruise Controllers and Magic Pies
Post by: begu on March 26, 2010, 11:26:01 AM
Hello,

this interests me too. I made a simple thread here:
http://goldenmotor.com/SMF/index.php?topic=1957.0
before I found this. So admin can close my thread, if reading this.

Ok, I have thought the following:
1. order the DIY KIT with motor, rim, pedelec, brakes and throttle
2. order the cotroller and the interface in separate package

This is because You cant include the programming interface to the DIY KIT.
Should I wait a while before ordering to make sure to get the new
one?

Who knows about the software? It would be nice to include the cd
in the shipment of the USB interface cable.

Once more, these are truly fantastic features that Golden Motor
are offering. Very nice indeed.javascript:void(0);
Title: Re: Programmable Interface for BAC Cruise Controllers and Magic Pies
Post by: begu on March 27, 2010, 07:13:05 AM
Ok, very cool:

there is now the program download link at the eBike D.I.Y page ! :)
EDIT: and it works straight on (tested it on winXP)!

But, could someone confirm if I order the controller, it will be the new one?
Anyone, please?

I think it should be, because it reads on the same page at least.

-Begu
Title: Re: Programmable Interface for BAC Cruise Controllers and Magic Pies
Post by: bragu on April 04, 2010, 11:08:44 PM
Me too I would like to know if the "old" BAC281 are programmable with the usb cable and if the answer is yes how much will cost only the cable/SW and how to order only it.

thx

ps: My need it's to change the regen brake setting 
Title: Re: Programmable Interface for BAC Cruise Controllers and Magic Pies
Post by: Bikemad on April 04, 2010, 11:48:02 PM
how much will cost only the cable/SW and how to order only it.

We are still waiting to hear whether it will work with the older external controllers, but you can click this link (http://goldenmotor.com/e-Bike-DIY/PI200Setup.zip) to download the software now.

The interface cable is $33 plus $20 shipping and can be purchased from the Motor Controller section on the GM website (http://goldenmotor.com).

Alan
 
Title: Re: Programmable Interface for BAC Cruise Controllers and Magic Pies
Post by: Leslie on April 27, 2010, 03:50:39 AM
how much will cost only the cable/SW and how to order only it.

We are still waiting to hear whether it will work with the older external controllers, but you can click this link (http://goldenmotor.com/e-Bike-DIY/PI200Setup.zip) to download the software now.

The interface cable is $33 plus $20 shipping and can be purchased from the Motor Controller section on the GM website (http://goldenmotor.com).

Alan
 

$33 + $20 shipping is an OK all round price for the whole shabang.  This adds to $53 extra to get involved with the interface.  Compared to hardware version programmer for just setting up the controller its perfect solution.  Easy access to the valid parameters and functions.  No programming skills
are needed.

Can this cord not just change presets but flash the chip for future "free" upgrades to software?

I do envisage much future here.

You will be able download preset configs for various motors and being able to add new and change programming will allow much for those who have older versions of software.

Even the software can have a drop down menu for GM recommended preset configuration for each motor and its wheel size, and battery volatge and capacity.
Title: Re: Programmable Interface for BAC Cruise Controllers and Magic Pies
Post by: sdaniels on June 23, 2010, 07:23:46 AM
Hello
I ordered a Magic Pie on 8. of March 2010. Does anyone know if I can find out if it is one which can be programmed with the interface cable or if it is the old controller? By the way, if it is the old controller how did GM configure the 36 or 48 volts?
Title: Re: Programmable Interface for BAC Cruise Controllers and Magic Pies
Post by: e-lmer on June 23, 2010, 04:31:38 PM

With model aircraft the voltage is detected at startup to
determine the appropriate cutoff.

This may be how these controllers work too.

According to what I have read here, the smaller
yellow wire in the harness will be open on the
old style Magic Pies.  I imagine that there is a
pulldown resister on the circuitry for the newer one
so you should get some high but not infinite
resistance between yellow and ground.

Anyone able to confirm this?
Title: Re: Programmable Interface for BAC Cruise Controllers and Magic Pies
Post by: GoldenMotor on June 24, 2010, 08:01:51 AM
The MagicPie delivered in March does not support programming. We started shipping programmable controller in May.

By default, the MagicPie or external cruise controller accepts versatile voltages from 24V to 60V. Programming a voltage is useful for low voltage cut-off to protect low battery.