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Offline albertlc

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hall sensors caput!
« on: April 20, 2011, 11:21:58 AM »
hello!
the last sunday I install my Magic Pie 48/1000 and all work well.
I ride some kilometers (3 or 4km), stopped and then in 30 minutes start again but I had a problem.
two beeps indicate the sensors hall are broken  ::)
I send a email to tom and sales golden motor but anybody response me.
here I read the posts about hall sensors (thaks for the information!) but now I need buy a new sensors or replace the rotor or stator of the wheel because I think that golden motor don't help me.
I don't know what can I do  :-\
can anybody help me about her experience in this sensor or in the support by goldenmotor?
I change the hall sensors or the complete rotor or stator? can I buy it in some shop or place in internet?
thanks!!

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Re: hall sensors caput!
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2011, 11:43:49 AM »
Hi Albertlc, when you hear the two beeps, does the motor start to work in sensorless mode (after you start pedalling)?

If yours is the external controller version it would be advisable to closely check the connections on the hall sensor connectors to make sure that nothing has come loose.

If it is a failed hall sensor, you should be able to get Tom (tom@goldenmotor.com) to send you some. Keep your email short and simple as his English is not as good as yours.

If you can't get the hall sensors from Tom, you should be able to purchase them online.
I'm pretty sure they are equivalent to the Honeywell ss41 hall sensor.

Take a look at this post and this video for more details on testing the operation of the hall sensors.

There's also some more useful information here.

Let us know what you find.

Alan
 

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Re: hall sensors caput!
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2011, 04:36:15 PM »
with my external when I had a sensor failure, if you completely take out the wiring for the halls, it seemed to run perfectly...

I replaced then all 3 of my sensors with the honeywell SS41's

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Re: hall sensors caput!
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2011, 08:43:58 PM »
hey! thanks!! I'm very grateful for your answers. are also very interesting ;)
I have a correct voltage (5'1V) between red and black cables.
I check the halls...
black-blue (spinning wheel) 2'5/3'2V... fail! :-\
black-green      "          "    0/4'9V... correct!  :)
black-yellow     "          "    always 3'0V. fail! :-\
then, I need repair the hall sensors. I think well?
Bikemad, I don't have a normal bike. my bike don't have pedals/pedelec because I can't ride. I have a problem in my left knee and my bike is electric only. ask it about the sensorless. I don't know how it work. cycling?
looking at how to buy the hall sensors... buff! ::) is very expensive the shipping costs to Spain (about 100 dollars buying6 halls)
really, I'm very grateful for your help!!

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Re: hall sensors caput!
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2011, 12:19:23 AM »
looking at how to buy the hall sensors... buff! ::) is very expensive the shipping costs to Spain (about 100 dollars buying6 halls)

Check out this post on ES regarding purchasing hall sensors.

Alan
 

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Re: hall sensors caput!
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2011, 10:10:04 AM »
now I just contact with lyen and I have already taken payment for 6 hall sensors. I prefer to have some reserves ::)
alan, thank you very much!! I hope to return the favor someday. you got a friend in Spain, sincerely :)
now... waiting the halls. when arrive I explain my experience ;)

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Re: hall sensors caput!
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2011, 10:52:07 AM »
guau!!  :D
departure from California on Monday 25 April and arrived in Palma de Mallorca on May 3.
very fast!


thank you very much to Lyen and others, of course!  ;)
I will tell you how it goes replace sensors...

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Re: hall sensors caput!
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2011, 11:13:30 AM »
Good luck with the sensor replacement.



Alan
 
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Re: hall sensors caput!
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2011, 07:45:31 AM »
yesterday I replaced my wheel sensors and the result is very good! ;D
I'm very satisfied!
thank you again for the comments but I forgot to mention that I'm still waiting for response from golden motor. is a service so bad and I consider it regrettable. negative point for GM! :P
here can see some photos I took...







not much help but my experience can encourage someone.
is very easy to replace the sensors and I encourage anyone who does it.
regards!! ;)

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Re: hall sensors caput!
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2011, 11:08:32 PM »
Good Job.

What is that white staff?

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Re: hall sensors caput!
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2011, 11:49:48 PM »
Is a type of white silicone that is resistant to temperature. I put it to attach the new hall sensors.
when I removed the sensors that failed had to remove part of a white silicone I guess it was to hold the sensors.

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Topic: hall sensors caput!
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2012, 06:09:44 AM »
I've just joined the forum looking for information about hall sensor changes. I noticed this thread which is helpful but please be advised that you need to be careful where you use silicone sealant. It leaches out acetic acid when curing so can cause corrosion of your hall sensor leads. You're safer using epoxy resin.
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Re: hall sensors caput!
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2012, 09:50:52 AM »
I upgraded the sensors to SS41 and coated with urethane :)
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